I really liked this episode. I liked Blake’s snarkiness and badass bitchness. I also like how Angela wasn’t the least bit fazed by any of it (at least externally). Two badass bitches going toe-to-toe is my kind of show.
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It only just occurred to me that somewhere between the comic and the show Laurie took her father’s name.
Just watched the first three eps. I’ve never seen or read anything of the source material for this, and it’s got some odd things going on. But I mainly want to say that Jean Smart is still hot at 68.
Oh, and my love for Silk Spectre II is confirmed by her insistence on the distinction between “hanged” and “hung.”
“I’ve seen a man who was hung. This is different.”
I seem to recall that at the end of the book, Dan and Laurie were expecting a baby. So I wonder if Agent Blake has grown up children.
Another good episode. [Spoilers for Episode 4]
Can a Mod change the title of this thread to say that is has show spoilers? It started as a speculation thread long before the show aired but has become the de facto discussion thread.
We had cheeky allusions to both Batman’s and Superman’s origins. They have essentially confirmed Veidt is in space (but is is the Moon or mars?) and that scene on the boat was creepy as hell.
We have a new rich weirdo (who I am pretty sure bought the landing site of Veidt after his eventual escape from prison in the beginning of the episode).
I have no idea where this is going but I am enjoying the heck out of it.
So are you thinking that the scene with the farmhouse couple is a flash-forward to the (near) future, when Veidt is finally successful with his escape? I’m not sure I agree, although I don’t have any guesses as to what fell from the sky. Whatever it was, she knew exactly when and where it would fall.
I saw speculation in a recap someplace that the guy in the lubed-up bodysuit was Petey, the young FBI agent with Laurie. But Petey hasn’t been in Tulsa before, I don’t think, and that guy knew exactly where to go to find a storm drain just large enough to slide into.
As for Veidt’s experiments with the trebuchet, in this episode, did he finally locate a hole in the shield around his prison?
I was thinking it was the car.
Speaking of which, looks like Will may have had the strength to hang Judd. Also alludes to something happening in 3 days that Angela isn’t going to like at all.
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I think the Veidt scenes are not taking place in the same time frame as everything else. He keeps eating anniversary cakes so either the date never changes where he is or his story is supposed to take place over years and years. I could see either be the case given how weird it is. The fireball coming down is the culmination of all his work.
I think Veidt explicitly said last night that he’d been there for four years.
…speculation spoilers again, based on rumours so they may have come from people who have seen later episodes (select critics have seen up to 8 of the episodes), so I’m spoilering: (About Veidt)
There are rumours going around the net that each episode is showing Veidt a year later. He went missing in 2012, that was episode 1. We are now in episode 4, its four years later, and its 2016. Next week will be episode 5, we will see Veidt in year 5 and it will be 2017. So in episode 7 Veidt will catch up with the timeline and will be in present day, which will be when the storylines begin to converge.
I don’t think it was the car. For one thing, Lady Trieu bought the farm just to own the land where that thing landed and we know the car landed on the street.
I missed the allusions.
Yeah, really creepy. Especially him throwing some back in.
A farm couple who wants a baby has something from space crash onto their farm.
Laurie’s talk in the car about how trauma from childhood is what makes people wear a mask and fight crime.
If you haven’t read the original graphic novel, or would like a refresher, this video gives a good overview.
If you’ve only seen the movie version, this video explains the differences between movie and graphic novel.
I think it very likely that the Ozy sequences are occurring before the present day shown in the rest of the show. The fireball from space could very well be Veidt finally making it to earth. The timing is still odd, though. In the scene with the Clarks (just to make the allusion even more on the nose), if Trieu was buying their farm just so she would own the land where the meteorite hit, then it’s a bit odd that she waited until the last possible second. Maybe she just has a flair for the dramatic. But she had to have known at least a few months earlier where exactly the thing was going to touch down, so she could start growing the baby, right?
So can Trieu see into the future, like Doc Manhattan could? Is there only one possible escape arc from the prison Veidt is in, and it ends in Tulsa? That seems unlikely, but maybe within the bounds of comic book logic.
Also, if one of Trieu’s hoverdrones picked up and dropped off the car, why was the dropoff so closely coordinated with Blake’s call to Dr. Manhattan? Could be as simple as Trieu owning and monitoring conversations on the Doc-Phones. It would be a neat trick to set up so much speculation about what Manhattan is doing and where his is, and then find out at the end that he really was offscreen for the whole series, and things attributed to him all had other explanations.
I’m strongly leaning toward the theory, though, that Trieu is the one who captured Veidt and is holding him prisoner. The unflattering statue and the baby-growing are pretty good clues.
The Veidt scenes have taken place one year apart each (hence the birthday cake with increasing numbers of candles); 4 years so far.
You state this as fact. Is it because you have confirmation?
I was assuming that the servants were celebrating the anniversary on a daily basis.