Hey, I grew up here. I can do that, especially when residents and politicians here make the rest of us look like inbred, slope-browed troglodytes.
You know, I’ve ranted and raved about various policies and phenomena found in this state that frustrate the living hell out of me. Roy Moore (the Ten Commandments judge,) Senator Jeff Sessions, stupid Southern fraternity tricks, and Alabama textbook inserts spring to mind.
So I guess you could say that Alabama’s reputation as a backwater and as a haven for oppression of all types is a bit of a hot button topic with me. Yeah, you could say that I get a little concerned about it, perhaps even a little worked up.
Actually, no. It eats me alive, and these fucking KKK bozos are the worst of the lot. They persist in a mode of thinking that makes me want to raze the state with Daisy Cutters. Some one in another thread coined the term Talibama, and you know what? To a certain extent, it’s true. Take a look at these brain surgeons’ treatises on the evils of Judaism and homosexuality
and (shudder) race mixing. Fucking evil, wrong-headed, stubborn, repressive assholes. Die and leave this place in peace already.
The terrorists, and I use that term to describe these cowardly, sheet-wearing motherfuckers, have already won.
Having absolutely nothing else to do this morning, I decided to look up all their Scripture cites under “Negroes and the Bible”. All Scripture quotes courtesy of Bible Gateway. All Alabama KKK quotes are in bold-face. If you have absolutely nothing to do, go get another cup of coffee and scroll through this and see what you think.
Beast-Chayah-Negro The word beast appears throughout the holy scriptures and often appears as simple “Beast” or “Beast of the field” or “Beast of the earth” . Three different Hebrew words are translated into the English word BEAST in the Bible. The Hebrew word CHAYAH means living creature, the word BEHEMA means meaning quadrupeds (like cattle), and BEIR meaning BRUTE BEAST. The Greek word ZOON translated BEAST means LIVING CREATURE.
Okay, I can’t argue with that.
**In tracing this word down through the scriptures, it is important to note that the Bible speaks of both quadruped (four footed) beast and biped (two legged) beasts. **
Can’t argue with that, either. “Beast” is frequently used to refer figuratively to “beastly” men, i.e. “men behaving badly”. However, they’re starting to get into trouble here…
**…If you have failed to distinguish between the beasts (quadruped) and beasts (biped) in the Holy Bible, you have missed a great deal of truth. **
…speeding up down the slippery slope…
**We are concerned with the Hebrew word CHAYAH, which means LIVING CREATURE, **
…faster and faster…
…and which we feel refers to the following biped (two legged) beasts.
CRASH! Undismayed by the crash of their Logic Vehicle, the White Knights emerge with…
**…Those who have clearly traced this Hebrew word CHAYAH through the scriptures under the English word beast, know it is speaking of the NEGRO ! **
Okayyyy…So, judge for yourselves. Are the “beasts” in these Bible passages “Negroes”, “animals”, or “beastly men”?
Was Joel speaking of a “beast” or field hand in Joel 2:22 ?
**What kind of a beast do you know of that wears clothing (sack cloth) as we read in Jonah 3:8 ? ** and **What kind of a beast “cries mightily unto God” in Jonah 3:8-10 ? **
**What kind of a beast has hands as reported in Exodus 19:13 ? **
Er, I don’t see that Exodus 19:13 says that a beast has “hands” at all. Perhaps the Alabama White Knights have a different translation?
**What type of beast is capable of mixing or “sowing” his seed with the “seed of Adam” as described in Jeremiah 31:27 ? **
What kind of a female beast could a man lust after and cause a penalty of death to be decreed by God? Leviticus 20:15 and, **What kind of a male beast could a woman lust after and “lie down thereto” and cause God to have them executed in righteous judgement? Leviticus 20:16 **
“What kind of beast?” they ask. Evidently the Alabama White Knights aren’t familiar with the “farm boy/sheep” scenario, or with the Tijuana “dog and pony show”. They lead such sheltered lives…
**What kind of a beast would have “eyes full of adultery” as recorded in 2nd Peter 2:12-14 ? ** and What kind of a beast loves to “riot in the daytime”? 2nd Peter 2:12-14 and ** What kind of a beast can “talk” or “speak” ? 2nd Peter 2:12 ** and **What kind of a beast was made to" be taken and destroyed? 2nd Peter 2:12 **
**What kind of beast would have the ability to “keep the vineyard” as we find in the Song of Solomon, chapter 1 , who incidentally was black? **
That one is a weirdo one (I mean, they’re all weirdo, but this one in particular). There’s no mention of a “beast” at all, that I can find. Perhaps the Alabama White Knights have a different translation…
My call is: their Bible quotes are all seriously, seriously twisted. Why am I not surprised?
I find two things really interesting about the Klan. One, that the state with the largest membership is CT (link coming, I promise), and two, that the original Klan was nothing like what it’s turned into- it actually was a respectible organization back in its days. And then NBF basically took the group and went insane, and now we have… well, this. Ugh.
There’s a KKK ranch a few miles from me. They raise ostriches and have rallies. I can’t wait to move. (only a couple more months!)
Ogre, sweetie, we have 16 acres on top of a mountain in the middle of nowhere, AL. Our neighbors are civil libertarians. I’m sure we can spot you an acre or two… come live with us. It’ll all be okay.
Now, to my reading, this says that Aaron and Miriam got all pissed off about Moses marrying a Cushite (Ethiopian) and spoke out against it, so God gave them leprosy. Now, I know that the Hebrews were insular, so they might have objected on the basis that this Cushite woman was not a Hebrew, but even if that’s so, I think it’s revealing that her race didn’t play a part in it.
Oh, but I forget. They were all just a bunch of filthy Jews, so it doesn’t matter.
A chaya is a wild animal (giraffe or deer for example).
A behaimah is a domesticated animal (cattle).
OTOH, a behaimah can also be used generically for any animal. Genesis 7:8 mentions “clean behaimos and unclean * behaimos*.” There is no mention of chayos. Do the KKK believe that there were no bipedal animals on the ark?
As for the “quotes” that Duck Duck Goose brought up, she pretty much nailed them on the head. However, I’d like to add one small point:
Joel 2:22 uses the word behaimah, NOT chaya.
Ditto for the Jonah verse.
Ditto Exodus 19:13
And Jeremiah
And Leviticus
And, as you correctly point out, neither the word behaimah or chaya appear in that section of the Song of Solomon.
(I can’t address the Peter verse, but considering that Peter is not written in Hebrew, I doubt the word chaya is used there as well.
So, if their proof is that chaya = Negro, they have struck out on ALL their proof texts.
“I love it when the Klan appear on Jerry Springer in their really good robes, it’s so exciting, they’re all shiny like satin. Where do they get those clothes? Is there a KKK mart that they go to?”
I’m not picking a fight with my homeboy Ogre. (really) I’ll just say that I have lived in Alabama for 40 years now and have never seen a robed klansman in person. I have never known anybody that I knew to be in the klan. While it is a despicable organization, it’s hardly something that one is frequently confronted with here.
It’s true that it is extremely uncommon to see the Klan here, but I object to the sunzabitches being here at all, dragging this state’s name through the mud…again.
And rushtopher, I apologize. It never occurred to me to warn folks before they clicked. I suppose pornography isn’t the only form of objectionable material on the net, huh?
Heh. The one time I saw a KKK member knowingly (As in: he was dressed up in full regalia, etc. A wee bit hard not to spot.) was in South Carolina, as the debate over ‘fly Confererate flag over capital or not’ was starting to heat up. He was sitting on the capital steps, looking quite bored out of his gourd. (At least that’s what his body posture led me to belive. That headgear thingy is pretty good at obsuring facial features.) First time I saw one ‘in the wild’ as opposed to a documentary on TV or in the paper. Haven’t seen one since.
What is it with the South… tradition is one thing. Hanging onto tradition tight enough to choke it to death is another.
Way back in my newspaper reporter days I worked with a photographer that had captured one of the most remarkable pictures I’ve ever seen.
He had been shooting a Klan march/rally somewhere in north Georgia. The police were in attendance in full riot gear, just in case. At one point in the rally a little girl, about two or three years old, in a robe and hood wandered over to a police officer, who happened to be black. The officer was standing with his shield resting on the ground and his hands atop the shield. The little girl, oblivious to the fact that the guy was a cop or black, was admiring her own reflection in the shield.
My co-worker snapped the shot seconds before a beligerent mother ran over, scooped her up and yelled at him for taking her picture.
It’s sad to know that innocent little girl has almost assuredly been subjected to years of indoctrination since and now would likely spit at that officer.
But I keep hoping it will someday end. I was raised in a highly bigoted family and rejected that idiocy, so maybe she will too.
It sounds like they were always racist idiots, and Forrest just encouraged them to become more so. The modern clan is, if anything, even worse than the first version, but please don’t delude yourself that they were ever the kind of folks you’d want to have over for lunch.
Did you know that if your mousepointer is on a link, the address for that link appears in the bottom left corner of your browser? I saw the “kukluxklan.net” down there and that was all I needed to know I should avoid it.
It’s also important to remember that the current Klan isn’t the same as the original Klan, or even what the Klan became when Forrest took it.
The original Klan (and other groups like it…I’m using “Klan” here to refer to all groups with similar goals and methods) was made up of white southerners, mainly Confederate army veterans, who were upset about Reconstruction, and their main goal was to terrorize Republicans…to keep blacks from voting, to keep people from teaching blacks, to crush local Republican parties, etc. When Reconstruction ended, the Klan declared victory and disbanded.
Then, in 1915, two things happened. Birth of a Nation, the film adaptation of Dixon’s “The Clansmen”, a novel glorifying the old Klan, appeared, and was a smash hit, and Leo Frank (who was Jewish), a manager in an Atlanta pencil factory, was put on trial for the murder of one of his employees, and then lynched by a mob, events that got national attention.
So, spurred on by these events, a nativist, anti-semetic, anti-black, anti-communist group formed, calling itself the Ku Klux Klan and modeling itself on the old Klan. This was a nationwide organization, not just a southern one, and instead of hating just blacks, they hated everybody.
