k, I read the whole thread.
Nowhere prior to that post do I see signs of racism in any of his posts.
In that post, he mentions SoCal.
He uses the term very casually. I get the idea that it’s an accepted term where ever he’s coming from. I don’t get the idea he’s a racist, or that he used it in a racist way. I get the idea he’s had lot of exposure to them, and that if he’s saying it so casually, then he could possibly have used it with them much like blacks call each other nigger sometimes, not as an insult, but as a term of familiarity, of being their own group.
I get the idea that he wouldn’t use the term wetback to somebody who actually had any right to be offended at it under normal circumstances. I get a glimmer of an idea that it’s possible he used it to get his opponents’ goat a little bit.
I could be wrong, that’s a lot of supposition.
Here’s some that’s not supposition- my son is part mexican and navaho. His grand father is 1/2 mex, 1/2 nav. His grandfather and I used to trade wetback/greaser/whiteboy/honky insults all the time. If we weren’t, it was because one of us was mad at the other.
I grew up with a large number of indians (yes, indians, not native americans- we called them indians, and lots of them still call themselves indians- they even have a special flat way of pronouncing it- kinda sounds like ‘indin’). There are some I’ve come to hate, because of their fucking victim rationale. There are some I don’t hate. Those I like, I tease. And get teased back. Those I don’t like, I don’t tease.
It’s an issue of familiarity. There are mexicans I don’t like either. And, if I’ve been in fights with them, I’ve called them every racist name I could think of, as they did me. On the other hand, I have picked up some traditional cooking methods, some of the words, and some of the general practices of both navaho and mexicans, so I can keep a little bit of it alive for my son, out of respect for those parts of his heritage, his mother’s and his grandfather’s heritages, along with the irish he gets from me. I don’t go out of my way to do this, especially, just a little here and there, so he knows a little bit and can get into it later if he wants to. I tell irish jokes, black jokes, mexican jokes, blonde jokes, man jokes, etc.
You, on the other hand, have a brother and sister in law, and a cleaning lady at work, who you spoke to with the aid of your handy-dandy little dictionary. (I can’t ever 'splan it to you lucy, but god, it cracked me up…)
Hey, I can see how you’d be in a position to get offended.
So, last night I ran across some other fuckin pcr’s. Today, I run across some goddamm christians. Now, tonight, it’s more fuckin pcr’s.
Your own fucking definition states it’s ‘sometimes’ used derogatorily. Sometimes ain’t always.
I also don’t think there are many Americans on these boards who need you to point out the history of the word. And it’s not a false stereotype- a wetback is a wetback because they swim the river. It’s sometimes used offensively, and there are people who come over via other methods, but that doesn’t say the term is only used offensively, or that it somehow perpetuates false stereotypes. Again, like a myriad of other things, terms, actions, it depends on who is holding/saying/doing it and why.
So, here’s a little stereotype for the both of you, Deb and doors (thedoorsrule- the fuckin fun I could have with that one…)
I bet you both shit so skinny you could weave with it.
Adios, perra y perro
I’m not sure whether you guys are with me or against me on this, but I’ll tell you, I am laughing my ass off at all this PC bullshit I read around here. I just find it so pathetic. Remember, everyone, if humor wasn’t offesive to someone it wouldn’t be funny