a4v ["accepted for value"] works

How about Shatner *auditioning *for the Agent Smith role in Matrix IV: And Then The Little Boy Woke Up and It Was All a Dream?

Actually, everybody, veewee77 speaks wisely:

Can’t find fault with that advice, now, can we?

What exemption is that? Excuse me, Exemption. Gotta capitalize it, doncha know.

Exemption from common sense, it’s Regulation XLII(A)(17)(s)(3) in the tacks code.

That’s the part where it’s swept under the carpet. And you know you always have to take up the tacks before you can take up the carpet.

I just looked on the back of a Form 1040, and see nothing with the word voluntary. In fact, the copy I have is completely blank. Not a word. Is it written in invisible ink?

By the way, I love this answer about whether filling out the form 1040 is voluntary:

Similarly, being inspected before you board an airplane (for security purposes) used to be voluntary. For years, before the TSA took over, there were searches of people and carry-on before reaching the boarding areas, but they were extremely perfunctory compared to what happens now. At the entry area to the boarding areas, there were always signs posted nearby assuring passengers that such inspections were voluntary, but that passengers who decline to be inspected may not be transported.

Some voluntary.

IIRC, the hubbub centers around an internal manual used by the IRS in the 1980s which boasted about how successful their program was when you consider the fact that it’s based on “voluntary compliance”

According to Collins World English Dictionary, the word “voluntary” has two meanings in the context of law:
a. acting or done without legal obligation, compulsion, or persuasion
b. made without payment or recompense in any form

The latter describes what happens when a citizen spends their own time filling out forms. Lawyers get paid a salary and IRS agents get paid a salary and members of congress get paid a salary but Joe Schmoe filling out a 1040 doesn’t get paid anything. He is acting as an unpaid volunteer. The alternative is that a tax professional could be hired to do the work instead, and that person is generally not a volunteer.

Look at it this way. 100 years ago, cities used to hire street sweepers to clean up animal dung out of the streets on a daily basis. Now, we expect the owners of the animals to clean it up themselves. The old system was based on paying somebody money to get it done. You could describe the new system as voluntary. But that doesn’t mean it’s optional.

There’s another usage of the word I’d like to throw out there. Imagine a group of soldiers standing around and the sergeant walks up and says “Okay troops, there’s a ditch that needs to be dug. Any volunteers?” Whether the ditch gets dug isn’t optional. The only thing that’s optional is whether this private digs it or that private digs it. Either way, the ditch has to get dug and the sergeant will make sure it does. The same thing applies to your taxes. Whether you fill out the forms or if you hire someone to fill out the forms or you get someone else to do it for you, whether you send in your payment or the IRS has to garnish your paycheck, those are the optional parts. But either way, the payment must be made.

Still, I have yet to see anyone post a law which actually says paying your taxes is optional. All I’ve seen is statements from government employees which talk about how nice it is that the system relies so much on volunteers and yet things actually get done without having to put a gun to people’s heads.

Hobby Lobby, Inc. Converts to Paganism

Maybe not voluntary. Aren’t there cases of people being arrested or detained for declining the searches and choosing not to fly because they are suspected of “testing security”?

The OP is a “One-Post-Charlie”.

Love it! And did you see this?: Hobby Lobby Invested In Numerous Abortion And Contraception Products While Claiming Religious Objection

Oh, the OP will reply as soon as they aren’t so detained by their current circumstances. :smiley:

Not sure if any cases exist, however it is true that once you enter the security area you no longer have the option to say, “forget it, I won’t bother flying today” and then turning around and leaving.

Maybe a SD lawyer can fill us in. I know an issue discussed in another thread was about administrative searches and how they do not violate the 4th Amendment. Basically if you choose to participate in an optional action knowing a specific search may be had like crossing state lines (ag inspection) or traveling out of the country (customs) that you in effect consent to a search because you have the option to not participate in that activity. So if I cannot choose to not fly and thereby avoid the search, it’s not really an administrative search n’est pas?

Apart from children, idiots, and prisoners in transit, who cannot refuse to fly?

The Ninth Circuit Court ruled in 2007 that Airport Screening Not Dependent on Consent.

I think what Saint Cad is saying is that once you buy your ticket and show up, you can no longer opt out of the screening even by deciding you don’t wish to fly that day and want to leave. Because of security concerns, that raises TSA scrutiny. There is concern about checking baggage and then not loading on the plane, for instance.

But the consent comes from choosing to purchase the ticket in the first place. That is when you had the option to choose not to fly and chose to fly. You could fail to show up and check in, but once you start the confirmation process, you are consenting to security procedures.

… because 9/11, apparently. Stupefying. Apparently our rights vary depending on how severe the threat of terrorism is?
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No-What they ruled was that once consent is given you don’t get to change your mind mid-search if you think it might not go your way.