Aaron Hernandez found dead in cell.

Aaron’s troubled life transcended sports. Stand out career in college, but he always had a violent side.

Interesting timeline of his life spiraling out of control. The one bright moment was his acquittal on a double murder charge April 14.

It ended with him hanging himself in his cell.

Sometimes you just can’t save people from themselves. It’s such a tragedy.

If that’s the bright moment of his life, that’s a very blighted life.

That’s as good as it gets for Aaron.

The guy had alleged gang affiliations going back to high school.

Tebow tried to help him in college. Steer him away from trouble. There’s not much anyone can to do when someone is leading a life like this.

Let’s just remind ourselves that if this guy didn’t play a popular sport, he would probably be regarded as a monster, just like the Cleveland man who killed a man and posted it to Facebook.

If he didn’t play pro sports he wouldn’t be regarded at all. This would be a local story. To make the news you have to do something more unique than typical gangbanger behavior.

That’s horseshit. He had plenty of bright moments - being drafted by an NFL team, making it to the Super Bowl, being signed to a $40 million contract, the birth of his daughter - and he could have chosen at any one of them to step away from a life of violence. He did not.

So he just wanted to be acquitted on the additional murder charges before killing himself? Maybe realizing he’s gained nothing from that acquittal. It’s over now, add least at the end he did the right thing.

Not a chance. The Facebook guy basically announced and carried out his cold-blooded murder on live TV, Aaron most definitely didn’t

Maybe he just wanted to kick it and hang around.

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“So, Mrs. O’Leary, how is your son?”

“Oh, he was just released from prison for good behavior.”

“How proud you must be!”

RIP Aaron Hernandez, but I wouldn’t use him as a fine example of a life well lived.

Regards,
Shodan

I’m thinking more like he saw his finance & kid last week & realized he’ll never get to see them outside of a prison cell again weighed hard on him. It would with me, but then I’m neither a convict or a murderer.
I don’t know what’s worse for her, saying, “My dad’s a murderer” or “My dad committed suicide”. I’d think both would weigh heavily on her.

There were plans to appeal the original murder charge and the one (gun posession) charge he was convicted on last week.

Clearly he didn’t think his chance of winning the appeals were all that great.

Ok I didn’t really look into Hernandez’s trial before (the one where he was convicted) - but I just read a Boston Globe article on it from back then and they said that the prosecution could not show a motive for the killing.

Since then, did that become clearer? Were the other two (that supposedly carried out the murder itself) convicted and was their motive exposed?

I’m saying that they are both monsters, not that they did exactly the same thing. One apparently snapped and carried out what may have been a series of killings, filming one (maybe more? don’t know); the other was implicated in years’ worth of depraved violence… and played football.

The motive was that he thought Lloyd was blabbing about his role in the double murder he was just acquitted of and wanted to shut him up. But since he hadn’t been tried for that yet, they couldn’t bring it up. I know he was just found not guilty for it but not guilty doesn’t mean innocent–he was in it up to his neck.

Motive is not a crucial element of an offense. In order to secure a valid conviction, the prosecution needs to demonstrate the conduct of a criminal or negligent act (actus reus) by the defendant, the intent do knowingly and deliberately commit the act (mens rea), and that both the conduct and mental state were concurrent (don’t know the legal term offhand), all “beyond a reasonable doubt” as judged by a jury of peers (in the case of a jury trial) or by a justice (in a bench trial). While the standard for reasonable doubt extent to which circumstantial evidence may be applied is variable and subjective, the prosecution is not requires to present, argue, or prove motive, even though motive is frequently invoked to make the case for intent or to assuage doubt in the case of conflicting or absent eyewitness testimony.

And good riddence to both of them. At this point, it often seems like the NFL would save themselves a lot of time if they just recruited directly from felon populations and build their stadiums attached to maximum security penitentiaries.

Stranger

I didn’t question the validity of the conviction. I was curious about the motive and whether it has become clearer what it was since the conviction.

Probably be regarded as a monster? He was a monster.

I notice he managed to kill himself on the day his team visits the White House for their post Super Bowl congrats. One last “fuck you” from him for the road.

n/m wrong thread.