Not at all. The topic you’re mentioning, using Voter ID as a method of keeping poor people from voting, is a bad idea for a myriad of reasons. Among them that it does not make the problem it purports to solve better, it makes it worse. It’s bad policy, *and *morally repugnant. Note that I am in agreement in both threads, I think things should apply equally. Free speech for one, is free speech for all. You shouldn’t abridge one group in particular. Just like the voting laws I disagree with, you shouldn’t make it harder for one group in particular. Especially when it undercuts democracy itself.
How sure are you of who the ignorant one really is? And why are you sure? :dubious:
How condescendingly generous of you.
Wait what?
I would not personally protest outside of a clinic (and on the few occasions I’ve chatted with those folks I thought it was a tasteless, rude and counterproductive means of activism), but I wouldn’t escort someone who wanted an abortion either. I’d consider both of them morally wrong. Escorting someone to have an abortion would mean enabling and supporting them in their behavior, and that’s not something I could ever in good conscience do.
Would you escort someone to a slave market?
That guy sounds to me like a cool, hep cat; someone who’s got his shit down. A hoopy frood who knows where his towel is.
His post is not remotely inconsistent with mine.
In other words, you’re demanding that your position be elevated based on nothing but personal preference.
Correct! Since I read it, perhaps you could assume I am also aware that the First Amendment exists.
When they involve killing people, they’re everyone’s business.
Even when they don’t, actually: if someone wanted to enter a building to engage in some activity that I strongly disapproved of, I wouldn’t necessarily want to support them in doing I, either, even if it didn’t involve human life. Part of having strong moral beliefs involves witnessing to them to other people.
While *your *demands to do likewise are based on God’s Unquestionable Teachings, huh?
BTW: Welcome to Great Debates, n00b.
There is no homicide involved in this issue, and accusing someone of homicide when there is no legal basis to do so is very serious.
Tell me something, though-Do you have some sort of paranormal ability that allows you to tell why someone is walking into a building?
Are you under the impression that people do not try to prevent miscarriages or take heroic measures to save fetuses?
Miscarriages are tragedies and abortions are tragedies. Miscarriages happen for a myriad of reasons, most of which are not currently preventable. Abortions could be prevented with a simple change in laws.
You think it is immoral to raise your voice trying to be heard in attempting to convince women to not have their children killed. You’re entitled to your opinion but that does not give you the authority to outlaw other people from exercising their rights to do so. Saying you only believe in free speech you agree with is the same as saying you don’t believe in free speech.
Nonsense. Total bullshit, actually. Something isn’t uncommon just because some other thing happens more frequently.
I don’t have a problem protesting an event but “protesting” a single person is harassment.
And if we had harsher laws against harassment maybe we could nip these so called “protesters” in the bud.
Are you concerned about gestational diabetes? Pre-eclampsia? Holding down a job so you can feed your existing family while throwing up sixty times a day?
Because I sure was the last time I got pregnant!
Adorable.
Now let me introduce you to my friendly neighborhood anti-abortionist. He has all sorts of anti-abortion signs on his lawn. He also has other signs on his lawn. Quite a few were also in opposition to efforts to improve our local schools. He also handed my poor daughters a rather vile chick-trakish piece when we mistakenly trick or treated his house last October and made a tacky insult to her for collecting money for UNICEF.
He’s far more typical of the anti-abortion brigade in my experience.
My mom was raped in 1963. No official report on that rape or on the abortion she had later.
I wasn’t aware slaves caused gestational diabetes, huge weight gain and lots of other unpleasant and potentially life threatening side effects. The things they left out when I was learning social studies!
That’s true. If “some other thing” is totally unrelated.
In this case, of course, the things are related, so, you’re wrong.
I have to wonder, when are we going to see cultural liberals criticize this ‘protest’?
I have to wonder if you think Argentina is a U.S. state. 
I have to wonder, do you know what country you live in and what the topic of this thread is?
Anyone taking the view that abortion is murder, but allows it in the cases of rape and incest anyway, can be dismissed. If you allow that there are cases where it can be permitted, then guess what? You’re pro-choice! Welcome aboard! All that’s left to discuss is why *your *personal judgment about what is acceptable should supersede that of the person most directly involved.
If it’s OK to murder a person before he’s born because of the circumstances of his conception, why is it not OK afterward?
No, I’m saying that law is ineffective and a cynical attempt to keep undesirables from voting. I’m not saying it should be overturned by my fiat. I’m saying people should support its overturning.
Okay, now cite about a hundred different instances where this happened. Then I’ll express my outrage that something needs to be done about these violent prolifers.