I respect the Constitution. I also respect all the effort my 4th grade English teacher, Mrs. Sullivan, took to teach me how to communicate with others.
By the way, if the issue is free speech, then the proposition that “if you don’t want to be called a baby-killer, don’t get an elective abortion” doesn’t hold water. If it’s a matter of protected free speech, then anyone at any time can call anybody a baby-killer. Call a woman going into a clinic a baby-killer, call a man waiting at a bus stop a baby-killer, call a kid playing video-games a baby killer, call a cloud floating by a baby-killer, call a fire-hydrant a baby-killer… it’s all good.
Well, not “good”, but protected.
No, I’m right, and you aren’t even in the ballpark. Deaths due to car accidents are common, even though they’re a small percentage of total deaths. The same could be said for any subset of all abortions. Your logic is fucking abysmal.
No, I’d say however unpleasant their condition might be, they’re still alive. While slavery degrades life, abortion destroys it.
Why would we need to prevent someone from calling another person a baby-killer?
What the hell?
It’s escorting women who want to get from point A to point B without being harassed. It’s none of my business why – I just feel strongly that women have the right to go where they wish on public streets without being harassed.
Well, you can’t be morally guilty of something if you didn’t know any better, so for their own spiritual welfare, I genuinely hope they don’t.
So the medical decisions of rape victims are everyone’s business? How about the medical decisions of women with ectopic pregnancies? Are the medical decisions of all pregnant women everyone’s business? If not, how does one determine which pregnant women don’t get this privacy?
As I’m ‘witnessing’ to you – harassing strange women who are walking from their car to a building is morally indefensible. It’s very, very morally wrong to do. Women should be left alone to walk to whatever buildings they want without harassment.
We don’t. Just don’t be a jerk about it, is all. Personally, I think anyone going to a clinic who gets called a baby-killer should respond with “No, you’re a baby killer, you baby-killer, you!”
Clearly, the accuracy of the accusation (by whatever standard one wishes to apply) is immaterial.
They aren’t really comparable, but it’s more important that people be able to access healthcare facilities than that they be able to access funerals, so the permissible buffer zones at funerals should be much smaller.
I don’t actually have a spiritual welfare. Thanks all the same.
It’s very simple, if there’s a legitimate medical emergency than you should have the right to have an abortion. If not, then not.
The moral issue here isn’t whether women should be allowed to walk to buildings, its whether they should be allowed to choose to have an abortion or not.
I don’t see it as important at all that people should be able to have abortions, and I certainly don’t have any inclination that they should do so free of guilt or shame.
Abortion is legal right now, unfortunately, but that doesn’t mean it should be easy.
Going to church is legal now, unfortunately, but that doesn’t mean it should be easy.
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…and my case is such a strong one that I think it’s important I be able to yell at people because I think they might be going in for an abortion. Because, you know, the facts and reason are on my side.
Who defines legitimate medical emergency? You? A Catholic priest? A conservative male senator? Just how pre-eclamptic does a woman have to be before she can deliver? How high does her blood pressure have to be?
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The moral issue is whether you should be allowed to impose your morals on other people. Because I don’t view abortion as immoral. Less than ideal perhaps but hardly the sort of cold blooded murder you seem to believe it is.
The real issue isn’t how you feel or what you think. The real issue is how you intend to punish women who have abortions. Because you will NEVER stop women from getting them. It did not stop my mom in 1963. It would not stop me fifty years later. I doubt it would stop my girls at any point in the future.
Yep. It’s been done for thousands of years. The chemicals are safer now than ever and the genie was never IN the bottle.
Just how guilty should a woman feel if she has an abortion? And just how shamed? Would a scarlet letter do? Are you in favor of public branding? Or just a chorus of old men yelling baby killer at the woman now and then? Maybe we could give out addresses of women who get abortions so as to make it easier for people to express their displeasure at her home?