Abridged books on tape!!! You bastards!!!

Why the fuck are 80 percent of the fiction books on tape abridged! If you publishing fuckers are going through all the effort to produce a book on tape, why not get the whole mother-fucking book on tape!

Each weekend I don’t have duty, I make the seven to seven-and-a-half hour drive, each way, to north Jersey. I’ve become addicted to listening to the latest novels in the car. It’s much more enjoyable than listening to a radio program for an hour, then hunting for another program when you begin to lose reception.

With the exception of Sue Grafton and Steve King, nearly all of the popular authors allow their novels to be abridged on tape. Some are even “abridged by author” as if that’s a reason to buy it.

Well, the publishing industry seperates me from enough of my paycheck but I’d be willing to pay a little more for a complete audio book. It’s time they sucked it up and produced what I want.

Fucking bastards.

I totally agree. May I recommend: The Phantom Menace (9 hours I think), The Vampire Armand (many many hours) and the really cool wooden box version of The Hobbit?

Thanks, Ope!

I’ve done the Hobbit thing.
Am doing the (abridged) Ilse Witch, Terry Brooks’ Shannara series latest… he novelized the Phantom Menace script which I’ve already read, BTW.
Is that Vampire dealio an Anne Rice offering?

Right now I’m debating whether or not I want to drop $150 on The Lord of the Rings in the really cool wooden box. That’s about 23 hours long.

For my trip today, I’ve got the rest of Blood and Smoke (about an hour to go) – three King stories only released in audio form and read by the author. After I finish that up, I’ve got Doyle’s first three Sherlock Holmes’ stories – produced by BBC (the same folks who’ve don the Tolkien stuff).

These bastards are expensive!!! My local library hasn’t seen fit to lend their audio books either. They want you to listen to them in house.

I feel your pain, brother. When I was on my audiobooks kick a few years back, I found that the bookstores only carried abridged audiobooks. The library has mostly unabridged ones, though. Abridgements show up in bookstores because they’re cheaper and thus more likely to be sold, but libraries will carry unabridged versions of the same books. Usually these are meant for the visually impaired, but the people at my library never seemed to mind my checking them out. Give it a try, and good luck!

Your last post must have shown up while I was in the preview screen. I wonder if they make people who “need” the audiobooks (the blind, the elderly, etc) listen to them in house? IMHO, that’s just unreasonable.

Amazon.com has audiobooks… and you might also want to check out http://www.audiobooks.com/ especially http://audiobooks.console.net/cgi-bin/au_switch/sql_full.html? (full length titles)

Wait…you’re reading something by Terry Brooks and you’re complaining because it’s abridged? In my opinion, TB is like a rectal exam, something you want to get over with as soon as possible.

I wasted a three day holiday caused by the Blizzard of '78 reading his Sword of Shannara and 22 years later I still want those three days back.

I feel the neighborly need to point out that your local library has hundreds of audiobooks on the shelves, and they are free!

Chief Scott, would you pay $150 for a book on paper?!?! If not, why spend that much for the tape? :confused:

I concur with Sdimbert. The ONLY book on tape I’ve ever bought was The Green Mile and that was for a birthday gift. There’s no way I would ever spend $40 for something I could buy just down the aisle for $7.99 or “rent” at the library for nothing.
Yes, production time is valuable, and talent needs to be paid somehow, but buying a book on tape is a scam.

I do agree with the OP, in that abridged books are horrible. I will at least give some weight to the ones that are abridged by the author. Look, if you have the guts to say “what I wrote here isn’t that important to the story, feel free to cut it,” that has to count for something. It could even be considered a way of humbling yourself in front of the audience. “Look,” he or she is saying “not everything that I typed is to be served on a golden platter…some pages I might not have put into my dog’s bowl.”
Abridged without the author’s consent? Criminal. Castrate the suckers. Who the hell are you to tell me what I think is important enough? I want the whole story, damnit, even if you have to stick around a recording booth for another day or two.

Have to agree with the above. Get your ass to the library.

Hell, Chief, just buy the book and read it as you drive. I mean, the road’s straight, right? And right now the car’s POINTED straight. So you can knock off a chapter or two before the next exit.

So how come you’re driving to north Jersey every weekend and not stopping off in NYC to visit with the congenial Big Town Dopers? Stop by and I’ll read the book to ya. I’m great at voices.

Anyway. I am lucky the library in Santa Barbara has a bunch of audio books, and they let you take them out for a week. The library in Montecito has too many books on tape, so there is no limit to how many audio-books you can get out.

Yeah, I only get the unabridged stuff, or the poetry (Which is really cool, becaause its often the poet reading his or her own poems. They have a great voices and they know the proper way to read em!) Another cool thing to look for is old time radio shows. They aren’t quite as cultural as the books on tape, but they are enjoyable. Look for x-minus one, or Sherlock Holmes with Basil Rathbone.

The BBC also did a version of Star Wars, which I would love to hear! I think I saw it at the book store one time, but it was like 150 dollars, and I couldn’t brng myself to spend that kind of dough.

pat

http://www.storytapes.com/

http://www.audiobooks.com/

The first does rentals by mail, the second has used titles available at a discount and a trade-in program. They also feature plenty of unabridged Dean Koontz. I highly recommend Fear Nothing and Seize the Night.

You can also check Google:
Shopping > Publications > Books > New Media > Audio

This is where I found the above sites, and I didn’t look at all the links by any means.

There’s abridging, and then there’s slaughtering. We got Terry Goodkind’s Wizard’s First Rule on tape, and it made no sense when we listened to it. Then we saw it in the bookstore. The paperback is several inches thick, and they had “abridged” it down to 90 minutes. It’s not even the same story anymore; I can’t believe the author allowed them to do that.

Chief,
I have news for you, my friend. Two words: Cracker Barrel. Shitty food? Yes. Great audiobooks? Absolutely. I’m assuming you have them in your area- they’re everywhere:
http://www.crackerbarrelocs.com/location.asp
What you do is this- you “buy” the audiobook you want, then return it to ANY Cracker Barrel restaurant and they refund your money, minus $3.00 per week that you have it. It’s awesome for long trips- you listen, then return them and get more- cheap! They carry very current titles, and I’ve used this service with great success.
http://www.crackerbarrel.com/features/booksonaudiotape/boa_main.asp

Happy listening! I loved Blood and Smoke (the story in the restaurant gave me the creeps for days), and Nightmares and Dreamscapes was great. I may have some floating around if you want to borrow them. Also, check E-bay for some great audiobook deals.

Zette

Yah, Cracker Barrel is great. I used them when I drove from DC to Calfornia. The only problem was, they only existed from Tennesse to Oklahoma. Before and after that I had to suffer with my own tapes.

But it is a great thing for a long trip. The best part was, I could pick a tape up in one town, then return it to a store in a different town 300 miles west. Perfect for a one way trip.

pat

The wheel of time. Though im only pretty sure its an audiotape if you get all the books of the series you wont have to worry about getting another for a long long time.(currently its like 7000 pages long)

I’ve paid $150 for a book before. Coincidentally enough it was for a leather bound copy of The Lord of the Rings. It had all three volumes plus a large fold out map bound in one book. Best money I have ever spent (I’m kinda stupid that way). I usually spend $100 dollars everytime I go to the book store (Damn you Chapters!) as well as read whatever I can find at the local library.

As for TLOTR on tape? If it’s the same version I have heard by the BBC it is excellent. It isn’t a reading of the book word for word, but rather it was written for a radio play, complete with sound effects and such. It was very good.

And FTR, I strongly suggest you check with your local library first though, they may have it. That is where I got my copy from. They are usually pretty good about things like this. Our local library lets you take out up to 10 tapes for two weeks.

Chief,

I don’t know how things are organized in the Norfolk area, but it’s possible that if there’s another library system in the vicinity, they’ll have different policies regarding audiobook lending. Might be worth checking into matters in the next county or city or whatever. Often you can get a non-resident borrower’s card for a fee.

Failing that, let’s consider this: how many times do you expect to listen to the books you’re buying? If the answer is not greater than one, then there’d be no functional difference between buying them and renting by mail from one of the companies that specializes in this.

I’ve been lucky in that my county library system circulates audiobooks on the same terms as all other materials (except reference items): three weeks, renewable once for a second three weeks. Given that I’m spending the better part of two hours a day in my car to and from work, I’ve made it through a lot of unabridged audiobooks in the last year or so.

My recommendation: check out Recorded Books, LLC. They offer only unabridged recordings, for purchase or (for most titles) 30-day rental by mail. Buying them is expensive: $40-$100 for most titles; rentals are in the neighborhood of $14-$20, depending on the title and length, so in many cases renting the unabridged version would be cheaper than buying the abridged. Best of all, both the material and the readings are uniformly first-rate. Unlike a lot of the other companies, they eschew “name” celebrity readers in favor of actors who, though mostly unknown, understand the particular demands of reading a book aloud and are masterful at it. After working through the entire Patrick O’Brian Aubrey/Maturin series, as well as a half-dozen other titles read by him (including a couple of Brother Cadfael mysteries), I’m absolutely in awe of reader Patrick Tull; he’s able to effectively convey the nuances of each character in each book without ever going too far. The accents, where called for, are distinct and accurate but never overdone, and each character’s phrasing and rhythm are, one senses, exactly what the author had in mind. It’s as if one were listening to a well-established rep theatre company rolled into one person. His performances of the Aubrey/Maturin series are astounding enough, but having heard him read such diverse material as Oliver Goldsmith’s The Vicar of Wakefield and the two Brother Cadfael mysteries, I’m amazed at how thoroughly he manages to adapt his performances to the material at hand. I don’t hear Patrick Tull reading a book, I hear the book’s characters and narrator speaking to me. And Tull is just the best example of the quality of the readers Recorded Books uses. I’ve also listened to a number of P.G. Wodehouse novels and story collections read by Alexander Spencer, who’s very nearly as good as Tull, and two of Mark Harris’ baseball novels, The Southpaw and Bang the Drum Slowly, read by John Randolph Jones, that were equally as good, and a couple of Elmore Leonard novels. If you’re a Sherlock Holmes fan, I should point out that Patrick Tull is the reader for several of Recorded Books’ recordings of Holmes novels and stories. Another thing I like about Recorded Books is that they avoid inserting music at the beginning and end, a practice I find distracting at best and annoying at worst. They also occasionally include lagniappes like interviews with the authors or additional author’s notes not found in the printed versions.

I have also sampled the wares of several other audiobook producers, and while they’ve varied greatly in quality, none has matched the quality of the books from Recorded Books that I’ve listened to. I realize this almost sounds like a paid commercial message, so I should hasten to point out that I’m in no way connected to Recorded Books, and that since I’ve borrowed their materials from my library instead of using their rental by mail services, I can’t speak for how they do at customer service. But if I were in your circumstances, I think I’d find out.

What?!? 'Scuse me while your friendly, unfortunately not-local librarian pops a vein.

They aren’t? Why the hell NOT? This is inexcusable. Hike yourself in and demand to see the director. If you get brushed off, demand the name and telephone number of the library board president. Call and then follow up with a letter demanding better service.

Books on tape are just books in a different format. They’re also the most demanded, fastest growing format going in my last 2 libraries. We *quadrupled/i] the BOT budget last year and still can’t keep any on the shelves. Travelling folks, office workers, housewives, the whole shebang love them! If that’s the preferred format then what’s the big deal?

Don’t let the old cost bugaboo snow you. Yeah, a good unabridged BOT title may cost $100±–but most titles are bargains in cost-per-use. Fact: most trade-bound books mayget 25-50 circs before falling apart. Then it’s expensive re-bind (rare) or toss the book.

Most unabridged BOT titles (esp. Recorded Books; great company!) are punching in at 150+ circs and still going strong. Most of the companies have an agreement to replace any damaged tapes for $5, no questions asked.

So look at the money…and look at the demand. This kind of thing infuriates me. If taxpayers can’t get the books they want, in the format needed, that’s censorship of a sort too.

Grrrrr.

Veb