Huh…I thought all governors could issue pardons. Seems in four states they can’t.
It seems they do have some power in this regard by appointing people who do make those decisions but they cannot promise a pardon.
TIL
Thanks!
Various counts and analysis made different and conflicting conclusions. Florida was so damn close that really it was a tie.
No, that is not what happened. There had been a recount, and Bush won, but Gore was asking for another (and incidentally his request recount would have had him losing) . But you cant have the election stymied for recount after recount. That is what they ruled. If Gore had won the first recount, they would have ruled for him. not Bush.
Right. Several recounts and analysis after the fact went back and forth who won.
Exactly.
It used to. And Reagan was a big fan when he was Governor. But it is hard to tell now. Basically the GOP knows it has lost the demographics war, and they want as few votes counted as possible.
So, that is why the supreme court said that the ruling they made could never, ever be used as precedent in future cases? They were so sure of their rightness in ruling they said never look to this ruling again. Ever.
“Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities.”
I have no idea of what you are getting at?
The notion that the ruling was a proper and righteous one so future courts would have guidance.
Moderating:
@DrDeth and @Whack-a-Mole, please note that the thread title asks that you discuss attempts of Republicans trying to steal the upcoming presidential election in 2024, not relitigate the presidential election of 2000. Take it to another thread if you wish, but drop it in this one. It’s a total hijack to what is under discussion here.
Exactly.
Nebraska has 49 legislators. Only 24 were willing to be seen supporting the idea when Trump, Graham, our governor and DC reps push it. The governor needs to have have 33 sure votes to prevent a filibuster and that’s after he calls a special session and gets it out of committee. Pillen called a special session earlier this summer, wasted nearly a million tax dollars doing it and then he failed to get his bills passed. Every Tom, Dick and Harry are still pissed about it and voters have long memories about wasting a million dollars on an ego trip, a vanity bill to cut taxes for the noblesse oblige.
Did Hugo Chavez claim that he was going to do that? Because the CEO of Diebold did.
Again, maybe he was lying. But when the CEO of the company that makes the voting machines says he’s going to subvert democracy, that’s the sort of thing that you kind of have to pay attention to.
Not impossible. It just means that the lines would have to run through the population centers in order to put the same population in each horizontal stripe. Start one line at the southern border, and move it north until it encompasses 1/3 of the state’s population. Start the next line at the first line, and move it north until it encompasses the next 1/3. A districting like this is always possible, and in the specific case of Nebraska, would result in all three districts holding a comfortable Republican majority.
Nm, this is off-topic.
As I mentioned in post #20 above the GOP plan in Nebraska looks to be in trouble. And I provided a gift link to the same article:
The article I linked to gives the military as part of the rationale for the early voting.
The federal Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act allows certain groups of citizens living overseas including members of the armed forces to vote absentee in elections. Montana residents can do so online through the state’s Electronic Absentee System.
We can only speculate if this is why they caught the error so quickly. I continue to maintain that it wasn’t a deliberate error. I’m not a coder, but I worked in the same rooms as them when I did all the writing from specs to help files. They were good people and experienced coders, yet I kept catching bugs, omissions, and confusion. Anyone reading the internet for the last quarter century will have seen hundreds of weird errors passed around to laugh or gasp at.
Did the Democrats sabotage the ballot to undermine military voting? Ridiculous. Did the Republicans think for even one second they would get away with leaving off Harris’ name? Unlikely.
Election monitors are probably the most honest and reliable group in America. They want everything to go right despite the human errors that inevitably creep in among the 94,793 physical polling places (in 2022, not counting early voting), voting in 3,143 counties and 50 states for who knows how many thousands of different ballots.
Keeping people from voting is comparatively easy. Tampering with the polls is next to impossible. Trump’s gang who can’t shoot straight aren’t going to be the ones who succeed.
Thanks. I am sorry I didn’t cite your cite. I should have.
I still think my post stands noting that it seems there is one guy thwarting the GOP in Nebraska right now and that person is a republican. I would be willing to bet (just a guess, no proof) that McDonnell is being offered a lot to change his vote. Nothing illegal (probably) but maybe positions in a future Trump administration like a cabinet position or a juicy ambassadorship.
That does not make me comfortable relying on “Nebraska integrity” for this.
ETA: I think I rely too much on the message board notifying me that a link to a story has already been used. Not the board’s fault, it is my fault.
McDonnell is term limited as a State Senator. So nothing to lose if he doesn’t go along w/ the GOP.
He plans to run for Mayor of Omaha (heavily Dem). Potentially everything to lose if he goes along w/the GOP.
CHECK MY ORIGINAL POST
(and the NYT link)
Mayor of Omaha or Ambassador to Great Britain. Hmmm…
(I made up the ambassador thing but just saying…the GOP can dangle some sweet options for him)
And it remains that it seems there is ONE person deciding this whole thing. How does that not scare everyone? And he is a republican.
I get why you say that but NO. This dude seems pretty well dug in and was a Democrat until last March when the state party censored him.
He want’s to be Mayor of Omaha. That won’t happen if he votes to make the city have less say in how the Electoral Votes are allocated.
As a sometimes coder, sometimes bug hunter, sometimes support monkey (hey! my current title is Software Engineer!): Even very good programmers make mistakes, and I’ve seen some of the worst of them (good programmers and mistakes). This could easily be explained by someone not remembering the array they’re working with starts at 0 instead of 1.
Where my mind boggles is when I wonder how this wasn’t caught in the review process. I figure a ballot process at least has a test print where someone signs off on it, hopefully several. What idiotic review process let that slip through?
That’s really what I meant. Sometimes you don’t see the forest for the trees. Or as a previous boss called it “Seeing Zebras” Say the results look right to you (but they are not). So you run it again. Same results that you think are right but are not. It can be a self affirming process.
That’s why you must test and test, and then put other eyeballs on it.
I don’t want to belabor this point, but while your proposal is theoretically possible, it is virtually impossible from a practical standpoint. The ‘middle’ strip would contain most of the city of Omaha and then would be a narrow swath bisecting about a dozen counties to the western border. Even then, I’m not sure that it would contain a ‘comfortable Republican majority’.
Lindsey Graham thinks it’s still a 50/50 chance that Nebraska will change its system even at this late date. (Link goes to MSN.)
Perhaps Railer13, Kolak and I (a voting resident of Nebraska for 43 years) actually did know more about likely Nebraska politics after all.
Strange how that works if you don’t rely only on national news sources going for click-baity headlines without any local, boots on the ground experience or sources.
It behooves us to never forget “all politics is local”.
Gosh darn it, I wish we had a “like” button sometimes.