E. Jean Carroll of Elle magazine’s “Ask E. Jean” told CNN that Donald Trump raped her in a fitting room at Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s.
So what are we going to do about this? This is just life now, isn’t it?
Article here: President Donald Trump Faces New Rape Accusation
Most Republicans in office, and most Trump supporters, are probably going to do nothing. Those of us who actually care very much about fighting rape and sexual assault are going to use this as further fuel to the fire to fight against Trump (and the Republicans in general) in upcoming elections.
This is America. Powerful and wealthy men can rape, grope, and assault, generally with impunity. This has only begun to change very recently, and only slightly – obviously, it still doesn’t have any effect on the President, or most Republicans in general.
Well, he’s denying it of course, saying she isn’t his type. So I’m just curious what type of women he does like to sexually assault.
Ah - the old “she’s too ugly to rape” defense.
Unless someone presses charges for something, we’re not going to see “no criminal charges” against the president tested in court. This leaves us with impeachment and voting the bastard out.
Melania must surely be running out of WH staff to revenge fuck by now.
The accuser has what appears to be an unusual reaction to the alleged rape. She says that she regrets not asking Trump for his tax returns, and that she doesn’t want to press charges because it would be disrespectful to women being raped at the border.
She also believes that most people think rape is sexy, which I for one do not.
This could be the break the di Blasio/Ryan/Castro/Booker/Warren/O’Rourke/Klobuchar/Gabbard/Inslee/Delaney/Williamson/Hickenlooper/Yang/Buttigieg/Biden/Sanders/Harris/Gillibrand/Bennet/Swalwell campaign is looking for.
Regards,
Shodan
If you believe that Donald Trump forcibly raped a woman in broad daylight in a public place and NO ONE noticed or mentioned it for 25 years, then you seriously need to take a look at yourself. I guess if someone claimed that he was actually a lizard alien from Alpha Centauri, you’d immediately buy that, too. You’re no better than the people who bought into the “Pizzagate” idiocy.
For a place that prides itself on intelligence and “fighting ignorance”, this board is certainly full of people who will swallow the most outrageous nonsense as long at it fits their political agenda.
It’s sort of like calling the detention camps “concentration camps”: the saddest part is not that it is irrevocably and clearly true, but it should be clearly false.
There shouldn’t be a doubt. This fits in with his blatantly professed character enough to take the possibility seriously.
More attacks on women for doing nothing more than coming forward and telling their stories. Par for the course, both for America and for conservatives in America, these days – women must necessarily be attacked if there’s even the slightest possibility of some negative political (or business, or career) damage to a prominent man.
She didn’t say she was raped “in broad daylight in a public place” – it was in a dressing room.
You got two key details completely wrong, but thats aid, the sort of thing Carroll actually described happens all the time.
Everyone knows Trump’s a sexual assaulter, even if they won’t openly admit it. Conservatives just don’t care, that’s all.
Is that still true even when he brags about it?
Hate crimes happen too, but Jussie Smollet is still a liar.
Everyone knows this woman’s story is fishy, even if they won’t openly admit it. Liberals just don’t care, that’s all.
Regards,
Shodan
The thing I don’t buy is that Trump stopped her and said “hey you’re that advice lady”
Donald Trump reads Elle Magazine? Donald Trump reads?
Do we dare search for posts under your name mentioning “Kathleen Willey”?
The #MeToo philosophy doesn’t demand that everyone believe any and every allegation. It demands that every allegation be taken seriously, and women who tell their stories must not be attacked or criticized for telling their stories without a damn good reason (i.e. proof that they’re lying).
That’s how decent people, and a decent society, should respond to allegations of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and rape, IMO – with compassion and with seriousness. Take it seriously and don’t attack someone for just telling their story. That’s really not that hard to do, but much of America (certainly most prominent Republicans, and most Trump supporters in general) fails again and again. I’ll note that most Democrats were failing this standard again and again until recently, but unlike Republicans and Trump supporters, there’s actually been some positive movement from that side on this issue.
“I regret not having asked my alleged rapist for his tax returns” is not a statement that can be taken all that seriously.
Regards,
Shodan
It wasn’t meant to be. Are you seriously unaware that many folks use humor to deal with past trauma?
I recommend Carroll’s piece at The Cut(excerpted from her book); it is, besides describing all-too-common horrors, chock-a-block with jokes. It’s obvious that humor is a coping strategy for her.
Or:
Let’s, for the sake of argument, say this woman’s story turns out to be an exaggeration or even a complete lie.
She would certainly discredit herself.
What responsibility/blame do you think people who currently give her the benefit of the doubt bear for hearing her out? Are they in some way complicit for listening and taking her seriously? Do you believe they would blindly persist in their support if her story was exposed as a lie? Would her alleged falsehoods discredit all the other allegations against Trump?