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I recently received my free Ubuntu CD (by the way, **could someone explain the business model of an organization that mails out unlimited free CDs **and seemingly has no revenue streams?) for installing on my new computer. However, I have quite a few Windows applications that I need and will keep needing, but I’ve heard WINE works fine, so I’m going to try that.
If it doesn’t, I’ll have to double-boot to Windows. Last time I did that I was using Red Hat and the only way to get it to work was to install Windows first and then Red Hat on top of it. Is that still the case? If I may want to be able to double-boot to Windows, do I have to make that decision before installing Ubuntu?
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It is explained on the website but basically they charge for corporate support.
They don’t actually make a profit (yet) everything comes out of the owners pocket.
I would opt for the dual-booting and yes, Windows has to be installed first.
Just watch out on the install process that it doesn’t chuck Windows away completely.
[QUOTE=Myglaren]
It is explained on the website but basically they charge for corporate support.
They don’t actually make a profit (yet) everything comes out of the owners pocket.
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And in reality, the owner pretty much doesn’t care if he makes a profit or not. The guy who’s funding Ubuntu is the guy who was the first space tourist, so if he can afford to cough up $20 million to spend a week in space. . .
Hmmmmm…okay, as in “ooboontoo”, or do you pronounce the “u” as in “cup”?
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Yes.
(‘u’ as in cup, that is) final u as more of an ooo though. Don’t ask why. No logic has been applied, it just seemed right that way so it probably isn’t.
[QUOTE=GorillaMan]
You mean boot straight into the installer, or boot into Gnome, with the option to then install (which is the ‘easy installer’)? The two need different CDs, the latter being the ‘desktop’ CD.
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I believe I downloaded the “desktop” version. Either way, I couldn’t find the instructions for booting.
Correction to my previous post: I previously fooled with LinuxPPC, not YellowDog.
Joining late as always… Ubuntu is the easiest install I have ever done and updates are a breeze. I’m hoping to aquire a couple of old dell laptops when out IT dept cleans house and has another auction. With Ubuntu those will be perfect for the kids to get introduced to linux, I just hand them the laptop with a blank HD and the CD and let them experience the beauty of it all.
[QUOTE=GorillaMan]
There should be an ‘Install’ icon - see here
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Cool, but … my problem is that I can’t find the instructions on how to boot from the CD, which I have to do before I can get to the desktop whereon that Installer resides.
There are several versions of the CD; It used to be the case that there were separate ‘live CD’ and ‘Install CD’ versions, but now the main download is sort of rolled into one.
I’ve had trouble with the live+install CD on some machines - I’ve got a machine on my desk right now that I’m setting up with Ubuntu; it’s only a Pentium II 400 with not a huge pile of memory; the live CD barely works at all on it - unbelivably slow and unresponsive - to the extent that I can’t even open the ‘install’ icon.
This might seem like an indication that a hard drive installation would run poorly on the machine, but I downloaded the other CD - the ‘alternative install’ version, ran a text-only install (which isn’t frightening at all - it’s still menu-based) and it works just fine; the performance of a hard-drive installation of Ubuntu on this old machine is really quite impressive.
[QUOTE=Phase42]
Cool, but … my problem is that I can’t find the instructions on how to boot from the CD, which I have to do before I can get to the desktop whereon that Installer resides.
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So what happens when you start the system with the CD in? On my PC, I get a menu, with the default option to start/install Ubuntu.
[QUOTE=Mangetout]
There are several versions of the CD; It used to be the case that there were separate ‘live CD’ and ‘Install CD’ versions, but now the main download is sort of rolled into one.
I’ve had trouble with the live+install CD on some machines - I’ve got a machine on my desk right now that I’m setting up with Ubuntu; it’s only a Pentium II 400 with not a huge pile of memory; the live CD barely works at all on it - unbelivably slow and unresponsive - to the extent that I can’t even open the ‘install’ icon.
This might seem like an indication that a hard drive installation would run poorly on the machine, but I downloaded the other CD - the ‘alternative install’ version, ran a text-only install (which isn’t frightening at all - it’s still menu-based) and it works just fine; the performance of a hard-drive installation of Ubuntu on this old machine is really quite impressive.
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I was given a HP (I think) P200 a few weeks ago, I think I’l try it on that, see how it goes.
[QUOTE=Phase42]
Cool, but … my problem is that I can’t find the instructions on how to boot from the CD, which I have to do before I can get to the desktop whereon that Installer resides.
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Have you tried holding down “C” on powerup (which is the Mac Boot from CD option)?
[QUOTE=Myglaren]
I was given a HP (I think) P200 a few weeks ago, I think I’l try it on that, see how it goes.
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The experience is a bit like Win98 on a good day - in terms of response only - I’m certain that in terms of robustness and security etc, there is no comparison. Unless the machine has a lot of RAM though, I’ll be surprised if you can install from the live CD - I think you’ll need the alternative CD and will have to do a text install.
