We should have a pool on who’ll be the first character to appear in a second episode:
Akela Amadour
Nick Fury
Franklin Hall
Maria Hill
Mike Peterson
Ian Quinn
Camilla Reyes
Dr. Streiten
I don’t think this a very good example of show, don’t tell. How would you have demonstrated their specialties without mentioning it with dialog? Can you do it without people immediately nitpicking your efforts?
As for being in the same lab, I don’t think it’s feasible to have separate labs on a plane, what with the confined space and all.
Honestly, those arguments are a bit of a stretch, aren’t they? You could make the same case against having more than one person in “mission control” for a space story. And it’d be just as absurd.
No, having two obnoxious and similarly obnoxious characters in the same show is.
I am not a bomb disposal guy, but I seem to recall that they do that IRL in some cases.
There’s an app for that…
Batman and Mel Gibson did it.
But even so, toss the device in, cap it, and LEAVE IT ALONE. Don’t open it up a second later to see what happened. They’re like a pair of three year olds.
But in the Marvel (and DC) universe, that’s true.
Professor X: Specialty-genetics. Able to build super-sophisticated machines (Cerebro/Danger Room)
Reed Richards: Specialty: Rocket Science/Physics, able to do (literally) any other field
Spider-Man: Chemistry (possibly organic chemistry), able to do optics, electronics, high-level physics, etc.
Hank Pym: Specialty: Bugs (entymologist?), able to do particle physics, bio-chem, engineering, AI/Computers, etc.
And the other, more practical problem is that most episodes don’t need a bio nerd AND an electronics nerd.
As an aside, the more I think about this, the more I’m annoyed that they didn’t just make Amador Misty Knight. Similar background (cop/SHIELD agent), cyborg parts, similar personality. Why not just do it?
Also, I’m going to be pissed if they forget they now have super X-Ray Specs the next time they need to unlock a combo safe, or see what someone’s doing on the other side of a door, etc. Introducing them was a mistake: they’re too useful and too powerful.
And IIRC the impressive Sentinel robots who plagued the X-Men were developed by Bolivar Trask, who also whipped up a super-power-negating medallion so his mutant son could stay in the closet. Which is pretty good for an anthropologist.
It’s OK if it’s in dialog, (I don’t expect mime) as long as it’s dialogue that shows they are doing something related to their specialties.
BAD Example: When Fitz is “gadget guy” and Simmons helps him set up and use his flying 7 seven dwarf robots, seemingly knowing exactly what she’s doing, it looks like she is “gadget guy” as well. That muddies the waters.
BAD Example 2: When Fitz demonstrates to Ward a gun that shoots a chemical/biological agent, without mentioning that Simmons developed the payload, a casual viewer (Who maybe missed the one line in the pilot telling their specialties) will assume that he designed the whole gun, including the biotoxin inside.
GOOD Example: The eyeball scene was just what I was looking for. She does the surgery (because of course biologists and doctors are the same thing, right?*) while he is squeamish, and he handles the tech once it’s out. That’s exactly what I’ve been wanting. Something that shows her being a biologist and shows him being a gadgeteer (ME? EE? Not CS, that’s Skye).
(Of course even better would be if they were distinguished by actual character and not just job. But I hope that will come.)
- In retrospect, maybe she should have been a medical doctor. Seems like the team needs one (since Dr. Shepherd Book seems to have disappeared) and a TV-doctor can do TV-Biology as well or better than a TV-Biologist can do TV-Doctoring.
Basically, my issue (and it’s really not that big a deal) is that if he’s the Gadget-maker and she’s the Biologist, let him to gadgety things and her do bio-ish things, and don’t have them step on each others’ toes so much.
That’s another story entirely. You’re never going to get comic-book science that isn’t picked apart by both comic book geeks and actual scientists (who are sometimes the same people).
It’s not that there are two of them when there should be one. It’s that there are, so far, more character traits that they share than traits that they don’t. If they are going to do everything the other can do anyway, there’s no need for both.
I don’t want either to die. I want them to be written better so they both can live.
But it serves to let them babble science-y stuff at each other in typical Whedonesque comic fashion while the others look on incredulously. That’s not a bug, it’s a feature. Plus they each have a SEEEEECRET that may differentiate them from each other.
Honestly, I have far more issues with the wooden hacker/spy/unrequited-coupling stereotypes Skye and Ward have been bringing than the zany science nerd stereotypes of Fitz-Simmons.
The problem with this is that, while this worked just fine in this single case, if they keep doing it, it’ll be an “Aquaman on Super-Friends” thing, where the space-tyrant “just happens” to have an underwater base, apparently just so Aquaman has something to do.
I could easily see Fitz and Simmons end up like that with plots warped all out of shape to give them both something to do.
I had this same thought, but I have no doubt that the specs are going to conveniently disappear from future episodes. So far the show seems to be more about the people, and then one or two fancy gadgets to advance the plot. If they keep pulling out every useful gadget that’s been on-screen so far, by the end of the season they just be able to sit in the bus and solve the crimes remotely.
It’s possible she its. Coulson mentioned “two PhDs”, maybe she’s an MD as part of that.
The writers can fill us in on that as the plot demands.
As for the shared traits, etc: maybe they are mirror twins.
nitpick that I thought of last night: These x-ray specs can supposedly see though clothes and see people naked. It wasn’t just a threat to Fitz, because Skye apparently saw something she liked under Ward’s clothes.
But when we saw May through Akela’s eyes, she was just a gray blob… where was the nudity? (or is that a hint that she’s not human? nah…)
And can’t inject a syringe into an eyeball without the nervous jitters?:dubious:
Well, mechanical-and-electronic-stuff and biological-and-chemical-and-medical-stuff is arguably more of a “Scotty and McCoy on Star Trek” thing.
There’s all different kinds of doctors. They don’t all jab eyeballs on a daily basis.
Real life example: circumcision. The basic procedure is 5,000 years old and the modern medical device to do it has been around a century.
But it’s not something every MD has done or necessarily would be comfortable doing.
But yeah, they can’t suddenly pull out a two-year ER rotation after that. :dubious:
I liked it while watching it, but the ending didn’t really work for me. Even early in the episode it was pretty transparent that Coulson was right and she was still ‘good.’
But the ending with all the kill-switch stuff left me wondering why she was so complicit in all the do-bad stuff. Sure they were going to kill her, but she did a lot of bad stuff to innocent people. I would think a highly trained spy would just refuse and die or even commit suicide rather than do-bad. She had no reason to comply and every reason to believe they would kill her anyway once she met their needs.
And the MI-6 dude should have done the same.
Yeah, the self-preservation argument can only be taken so far. My impression is that she was going to be severely punished for her actions but that she had made her peace with that.
I agree, that would be bad. Fortunately, they can still do character stuff or help out elsewhere even when their particular skills aren’t in demand.