Esprix, glad you’ve stabilized to your usual potshots. You didn’t find the humour again? That’s a shock.
Reprise, that’s a good point about the blood spills – I saw that quote, from the guardian IIRC. I don’t think it’s a bad thing – just mostly irrelevant to the overall issues – and further, I don’t think it opens the debate so much as distracts it. But hopefully I’m wrong on that. I still think it’s silly – wouldn’t a day in sex-ed sink in just as well?
I don’t think your average 3 or 4 year old is in need education about the sexual transmission of HIV - they ARE in need of information about how to protect themselves and others from accidental transmission of the virus through blood. In my experience, young kids tend to have a lot more direct contact with blood than they do with sexual encounters. YMMV.
It’s even more important that, in a country ravaged by the disease, children are taught tolerance for those who are ill. I think that’s the point, which some seem to have missed.
Esprix
I don’t think you can fight gross ignorance with more tolerance; I’d be careful which one we give more weight to – that’s my point, and is my point with respect to the original post, to wit, gay men still seem ignorant of the risks of casual sex, and advocating more tolerance instead of more education, as some have on this board, quite loudly.
If you amend that to “some gay men still seem ignorant of the risks of casual sex,” I’d quite agree. There is a small, but disturbing segment of the gay male population that thinks that safer sex protocols are optional; those guys drive mem, and everybody else who lived through the initial onslaught of AIDS, to distraction.
What do you mean by this? Are you saying that some SDMB gay men are advocating having unsafe sex? Please name names because I haven’t seen this ever. Every gay man here is right alongside having safer sex.
Or are you saying that one must never have casual sex? If so, I must disagree. While it is obvious that one is safer in a long-term, monogamous relationship, that’s just not an option for a lot of people. Moreover, people being the horndogs that they are, some folks, gay and straight, male and female, are going to get dow to some harcore aardvarkin’ on a casual basis. As long as they use rubbers and minimize their risk, 'tain’t nobody’s business but their own.
I think I’ll start work on the barbed wire buttplug now, because everything Ace0Spades is saying seems to come out the ass.
Ace your second cite quote doesn’t impress me. I already noted that rimming entails high risk for a cornucopia of STDs–it’s low-risk for HIV because there’s no fluid exchange (unless you’re bleeding out the ass).
From the medical column at gay.com
From the UCLA LGBT health care site:
From theMidwest AIDS Prevention Project:
I repeat, rimming is a lower risk activity for HIV–bear in mind that’s lower risk, not zero risk–and high risk for fecal-borne diseases. You are at much higher risk for contracting hepatitis from rimming than you are for catching HIV.
Ace, I know more about HIV risks than you do. Instead of spreading your ignorance, boy, you need to shut up and learn. Although I should give you credit for some expertise on oral/anal contact, since you spend your time on the SDMB talking out your arse.