Airborne altitude: Rules of THUMB

Having just moved to this locale, I have wondered this as I watch props, jets and helicopters.

Is there a rule of thumb for gauging altitude.

As in, if the plane is a thumb-width above me as I stand with arm outstretched, how high might that be?

If the jet is a sixteenth of an inch in the same gauge, what might the range of altitude be?

And if the helicopter, getting ready to land just over yonder, whirs to a stop atop the heliport, how far away might it be?

Thanks for your help. I appreciate all the really…intelligent…folks here. Always have.

Dian

I’ve been flying, and around aviation for many years, and don’t know of any such rules of thumb for visually estimating altitude. With practice, you can develope some skill, but I know of several instances where my altitude was badly estimated by people who should have aquired such skill.

However, knowing the FARs (federal aviation regulations) can be useful. Over a populated area, or gathering of people, fixed wing aircraft are required to maintain at least 1000’ altiude unless taking off or landing. Over sparsely populated areas they are to remain at least 500’ from any person, structure, or vehicle. Most pilots take that to mean that 500’ is minimum altiude over farm land and such. That altitude gives you few options in the event of engine failure, though, so most will fly higher unless giving cousin Bob an arial view of the family farm or such.

There is no minimum altitude requirement over bodies of water.

It is common at General Aviation (small) airports for aircraft to enter the downwind leg of their landing pattern ( parlell to runway where they will land, but going opposite direction) at 1000-1200’ AGL. Aircraft flying over the airport, but not intending to land (they make good landmarks, and it is generally safer to plan a flight where there are opportunities for unforseen landings) will cross over the airport above 2000’ AGL. Specific airports may have exceptions to the above due to geographic or leagle issues.

Over generally flat areas, small aircraft and helicopters tend to fly at under 4-5000’ AGL in my experience. Their engines lose performance with altitude, and climbing cost fuel and airspeed. If they are on a path that will require them to cross mountainous terrain, then they will not wait to get there to climb, so they will then be flying much higher.

Exeptions to these guidlines abound, and some pilots ignore them.
I know some Ag pilots (crop dusters) who don’t beleave in wasting fuel that will fly just above power line level, and one that normally flys between there and fence level.

Flying above 18,000MSL normally requires the aircraft to be on an instrument flight plan, and many small airplanes can’t fly that high anyway. Any operation above 14,000, or more than 1/2 hour above 12,500’MSL requires oxygen. Operation above 10,000 MSL requires a mode-C transponder. So over Iowa, it is a pretty safe bet that any small airplane is flying at under 10,000 MSL. In the mountain west, it is probably below 12,500’, and almost certainly below 14,000. Gliders use altitude as “fuel in the tank” and carry oxygen, so they will climb as high as thermals and regulation permit. In the mountain west, sailplanes (gliders) routinely climb to 18,000 MSL in summer.

Finally, small aircraft flying at level altitude have some rules of the road: Generally eastbound traffic is to fly at odd 1000’+500 altitudes, (9,500, 11,500 etc.) while generally westbound traffic is to fly at even 1000’+500 altitude. (8,500’, 10,500’ etc.) Note that these are MSL (mean sea level) figures not AGL (above ground level). This means that based on the direction of travel, if you can estimate the altitude to within 1000’ you can be reasonably sure that the airplane is flying at the altitude specified above. Instrument flight is at similar altitudes without the 500’ addition. So an expensive turboprop, or corporate jet is probably in one of those slots.

Just out of curiousity, what are the rules for north/south? Do north and east do the odd+500, and south and west do the even+500 thing?

This is an arial view of a farm

Yeah, the ol’ “odd folks fly east” rule.

On a compass, 001 degrees through 180 degrees is considered east, and 181 to 360 (or 000) degrees is considered west.

exactly so. The north south component is ignored for the purpose of determining preferred altitude. And those are magnetic headings which can vary considerably from true north in some areas. The split was made east/west rather than north/south, as the northern sector crosses zero, making it slightly more difficult to quickly determine if your current heading is more southerly or more northerly:

Is my heading more or less than 180?

vs:

Is my heading between 270 and 359 or between zero and 90, or between 90 and 270?

This illustrates a point I failed to make. I don’t see a FAR violation in that photo. Many pilots I know will tell you that you are supposed to be at 500’ over rural areas. The regulation is specifically NOT written that way: “500’ from any person, structure, or vehicle”…No minimum distance from the ground is specified.

You might be able to work one out for yourself, but it is going to take some work and will have limited applications.

Use maps.google.com to find an airport close to your home. Using the scale in the lower left of the photo (select “satellite” or “hybrid”) find a location where you can look at parked airplanes from a known distance (and where Homeland Security will not come interrogate you for looking at airplanes). Figure out how large the plane is in comparison to your thumb at that distance and work out your rules from there.

You will probably come to a realization of just how difficult that is going to be.
Suppose you select a Boeing 767 for your ranging. Suppose, further, that you have been able to get to within 1,000 feet of the plane and it is exactly as long as your extended thumb is wide. Very good. Based on a length of 201 feet, you now know that a Boeing 767 that is only 1/3 as long as your thumb is wide is 3,000 feet away from you. (Of course, this works best if the plane is directly over you in a landing pattern. If the plane is 3,000 feet from you, but at a 45° angle, it will only be around an altitude of 2,121 feet. (And, of course, that depends on the plane being perpendicular to you so that you can figure out its length in relation to your thumb. If it is flying toward you or away from you, your thumb will look correspondingly bigger because of foreshortening of the fuselage.) But you have only solved for the Boeing 767, what if the plane is a similar looking Boeing 757 which might be 178 1/2 feet long or 155 1/3 feet long, depending on the model. How long is that in comparison to your thumb’s width at a distance of 1,000 feet? How about a Boeing 737 at 110 1/3 feet or a Cessna 172 at 27 feet?

The apparent size of the plane will change with distance and the angle at which it appears, and you need to know the angle and the size of the plane. Somehow I don’t think you are going to find any one-size-fits-all rules of thumb that you had hoped for.

There are no rules of thumb for general altitude estimating. The problem is that it can be fiendishly difficult to tell if you are looking at a smaller aircraft (say a B737) that is closer and/or lower, or a larger aircraft with an almost identical appearance (B767, B777, large Airbus types) that is further away and/or higher.

However, if the aircraft are on approach to landing you can have a good guess at how high they are. If they are close to the runway, in the circuit, and flying level, they are probably 1,000’ above the ground. If they are making straight in approaches from further out (fairly typical for commerical jets), then their altitude, in feet, should be about 300 x their distance from the runway, in nautical miles.

If you’re watching them fly over you and you know you are about 5 miles from the runway, they should be at around 1,500’. After you’ve seen enough aircraft in situations where you have a good idea of what their altitude is, you’ll find it easier to guess in other unknown situations.

Are you sure?

I’m from the area that was taken. I’ve lived here my whole life. I’ve been on every road in the area (crewing for hot-air balloons, which I now fly in that area) That’s west/southwest side of the city. (If I had to guess, I’d say between Baden and Wellesley) I’m 90% sure I’ve seen that farm before (it’s not a very common assorment of buildings there, many different styles/ages), from that angle. That’s probably taken from the road or from another hill near the farm, as the terrain’s pretty rolling there.