My point is the right decision is the right decision, sometimes it will give the impression that we’re appeasing them, sometimes it won’t. Don’t you think it would be stupid to avoid a course of action for the sole purpose that we’ll give the terrorists the wrong impression?
Take a look around, sadly, it seems to be working all too well.
We’ll we’re not going to win by sticking around. This war has already created the next generation of terrorists. We’re going to have some serious fucking problems in the next few decades because of this misadventure.
I think some of the time the target of terrorists really isn’t the country itself but it’s citizens on an individual basis. They know America isn’t going to break under their pressure but they are quite positive that many individual Americans will reconsider going over there if Americans are the target. Same with targeting Brits, South Koreans, Japanese, etc.
'Cept with Spain they’ve convinced themselves that the whole country advocated through a vote to remove their presence and support in Iraq because of the terrorist act directed at them. All I can say is that the next time Spain alligns itself with a multinational force, who’s soldiers and/or civilians do you think are going to be #1 on the terrorist target list?
As I understand it a major goal of terrorists is exactly the undermining of trust the people have in their government, not so much the bullying of the soulless & corrupt individuals that may make up that government.
There was never 80% opposition to the Iraq war. If anything, it’s the other way around. It’s fluctuated, of course, but support for the Iraq war was at about 70% a year ago, down to about 50% now. Here’s a number of polls:
The people that attacked them are more closely connected to people in Afghanistan then Iraq. You focus your resources where you’ll get results, something the US seems to know nothing about at the moment.
A mighty big if for the US in Iraq too, what’s your point?
“…keep in mind that Spain has recently sent additional troops to Afghanistan to deal with AQ. So the point here is, if all goes well, AQ won’t go after Spain the next time, because Spain already wiped their asses out.”
is at best pie in the sky and at worst some country’s policy to deal with terrorists.
And the country seems to support Spain’s continuing operations against Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda actions have had no effect whatsoever in Spain’s efforts against them.
Can we all write down and remember: Iraq is nothing to do with the War on Terror . That’s you too Bush.
God bless you, Eve, for seeing this in its proper context. You are to this board as the Great Star of Africa is to the Sceptre with the Cross. Remove you, and there’s no there there.
So how about this? "Let’s go squander shitloads of money, INTL goodwill, and military resources, to attack a country that had nothing to do with the actual people who attacked us.
Really it’s fucking simple, in fact, I’ll capitalize it for you.
THE METHOD IN WHICH WE’RE ATTEMPTING TO CURB TERRORISM, IS (GASP!) CREATING MORE TERRORISTS THEN WE’RE ELIMINATING.
Sorry, yeah, those are for the US. Punditlisa had said “Which side should the US listen to? We’re pretty evenly divided.”, and you gave the 80% figure, so I thought you were referring to the US. My bad.
It’s rough that the Korean guy was murdered and it’s true that one never knows how one will react to impending death until it happens, but I really hope that if that were me that I wouldn’t die sniveling and crying. I’d much prefer to go like Fabrizio Quattrocchi.
Don’t worry, we’ll be out of there soon enough. Here’s Bush’s secret plan to end (our involvement in) the war. (Ssssh! Don’t tell anyone. ;))
Hand over “sovereignty” on June 30.
Increasingly withdraw our troops from the cities to those “enduring bases”.
Wait for Iraq news to disappear from the evening news programs, and sink to page A-17 of your local newspaper.
Skedaddle, regardless of how things are going on the ground.
Step 4 is 100% speculation, of course. Steps 1 and 2 of the plan are real enough, and at this point Step 3 is surely an integral part of GOP hopes for this November. And there’s a pretty decent chance of its happening. After all, how much news do we see about Afghanistan these days? And if it does, that certainly opens the door for step 4.
