No, now we see the consequences of doing so. The present disaster is precisely what daddy Bush was afraid of.
The non-American media of course. Almost anybody else is more reliable.
And Marxism is a dead movement; if you’re going to insult me, try to come up with something modern. Are you going to accuse me of being a “hippie” next ?
I don’t want to impede your skills, you’re doing a fine job on your own.
Yeah, you hawks would prefer to forget that the USA egged them on and sold them weapons. It was an indirect way to get back at Iran for the hostage crisis. It was a proxy war on behalf of the USA against Iran.
And because they threw out the Shah and then had the gall to keep the F-4’s and missiles that we provided him.
Ooops, did I let the secret slip? Well, since it’s out there I may as well confess. Cheney called this morning and let me know that since it’s perceived that way, we’re just going to kill everyone. We like killing people. And wearing their shirts. It’s a sickness.
You know why we gave some stuff to Iraq 25 years ago? Yup, I see you do realize that. So we have a start. Did we know Hussein was such a psycho, and would shit out 2 psychos that made him look like Miss Congeniality? I’m thinking not. But who knows?
Cheney and Bush were in the oil business back then, so let’s just take the conspiracy to it’s bitter end. This war was waged in the mid-70’s.
Back then, Iran was the threat between the two. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hussein at the time wasn’t actively trying to kill The Great Satan (Westerners, really), at least not as openly. So we shipped some guns and missles and got Tehran off our backs for awhile. Meanwhile they were killing each other (illegal war anwhere here?) giving us a chance to focus elsewhere.
Know where we focused attention? The “rebels” in Afghanistan fighting the Soviet Union. We sent a shiat-load of guns and missles to the very people we’re fighting today. The greatest threat was the USSR so we played nice with anyone else we saw as fighting the same enemy.
It was expedient at the time, not so much today. But for some reason, human dynamic changes and previous enemies become allies and vice-versa. Things change, and it isn’t always in the time-frame acceptable to certain people that expect a resolution before the credits roll and the lobby is swept up.
It took 15 years of Hussein breaking UN resolution after resolution that were all part of the cease-fire agreement (can you take a second to think of this concept?) before waging an “illegal war”.
Seriously. We didn’t “start” this war. This is finishing it. It never stopped.
I thought we were talking about the Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. I assume that was a typo on your part?
It was not, is not and should not be the province of the US to enforce UN resolutions by unilateral actions.
The UN had taken action as to what was regarded as the most serious of Iraq’s possible violations, namely restarting weapons programs. A competent UN weapons inspection team was in Iraq.
GW, et al insisted Iraq’s presumed weapons programs were such an urgent threat that it was impossible to await the results of the inspection team’s search for evidence of those programs.
Please stop making it sound like there was a direct and coherent US position as to what we wanted out of Iraq and the UN and that it was all someone else’s fault. We started a war in Iraq where there was no war, despite your clamor that there was, and where UN action was already under way to investigate claims of Iraqi violation of the crucial cease fire condition, weapons development.
duffer, this post displays such complete ignorance of the Iraq/Iran war, the Gulf War, and the history of the sanctions against Iraq since the Gulf War, that I cannot even begin to address it.
Thanks. I found something that leaves you speechless. My work is done.
And yes, I know what years the Iran/Iraq war were fought. The '70’s reference was for anyone that isn’t reading this thread with such blinding hatred of Bush to miss a small joke.
Keep in mind al-Queda and Hussein were around during the reign of The Greastest Human Evar!!!1!ONEONE!!11.
How many Presidents should we have elected before doing something to finally confront this crap?
Albert Einstein ?
Well, he got divorced at one point. A comedian said instead of the “Till death do you part”, a person should be asked “Do you think you’re smarter than Einstein?”
We did confront this crap. We had established two separate zones inside Iraq where the Iraq military were forbidden to operate (thus providing a place where al Qaida could establish a training camp that Hussein could not remove). We had forced Hussein to eliminate his stockpiles of WoMDs. We had seriously reduced his programs to acquire new WoMDs, to the point where they were available to him only in theory, not in reality. The United Nations had compelled him to permit inspection teams back into the country after it had pulled them out a few years earlier when it became apparent that the U.S. was illegally using the teams as a cover to engage in nationalistic spying on Iraq.
Now, we did not have the nice warm feeling that GWB wanted of having the U.S. flag fly over Baghdad, but Hussein was trapped in his own country, not a threat to either his neighbors or the world at large. Nothing he was doing required a U.S. president to do anything more than support the successful actions of the United Nations rather than violating the treaty the U.S. signed at the establishment of the UN (at the prompting of the U.S.) that prohibts the invasion of countries that are not engaging in warfare against other countries.
By the way, your whiny complaint that we could not wait for some future president to do some vague thing is contradicted by your own previous statement: