Al Qaqaa: where the roadside bombs come from

Whereas you, on the other hand, take cold hard facts and try to introduce ambiguity.

Well, maybe not necessarily. Could be some other location, close enough to confuse GPS location finding, that was stocked to the rafters with barrels marked “Explosive” and got IAEA seals all over them. Must be hundreds of them, right around there. So maybe it was someplace else. So you want to suggest those videos were taken somewhere else? Really want to try to make that fly? You sure?

From the same cite:

You think they didn’t know what day they were there? I really don’t get what you’re trying to say…

Yeah. Good ol’ open minded, non-partisan Scylla

Contrast and compare with:

No comment necessary.

Boy, what a blockbuster! No doubt about it, those photos establish, beyond any question or ambiguity, that the Al Kaka cite was accessible by truck!

GlobalSecurity.org has an analysis of the pentagon’s new photo up, along with other satellite shots, and maps of the site identifying the bunkers in which HMX was kept:

In part. It was also a site for the production and testing of munitions. There’re a number of smaller related sites nearby as well. Apparently, it was central to Iraq’s munitions industry. Some have even called it “the main high explosives storage facility in Iraq.”

Which brings us to the question,

Why isnt there more activity recorded at the site?”

Here is the New York Times article about the Minneapolis news film crew’s video tape and the reasons why they believe it is from Al Qaada, along with why the Iraqi ministry believes the explosives were there up through April 9 (although they admit that they can’t be positive).

[nitpick] “two big trucks” = a bunch ? [/nitpick]

Senior Defense officials released the photo merely to show that the Al-Qaqaa facility “was not hermetically sealed.”

Gaggle of geese, murder of crows, college of owls, bunch of trucks, herd of cats. Any plural.

Well, at least with regard to this one bunker, and the film shows one seal, one bunker, one group of soldiers going through, and there were others there that were sealed. With this one, I think it is game, set, and match. There was HMX, RDX in there.”
–Dr. David Kay

Further imagery

Skulk of foxes, slouch of apes, slime of neocons…

:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

And now there I’ve seen reports that the IAEA seals could not be effective because there were ventilation shafts in the sides of the bunkers large enough to provide access.

300+ tons moved via ventilation shafts :dubious:

Every 2 hours since this story broke, we’ve watched the White House fling a new piece of figurative poo at it in an attempt to drown it in slime. And every piece that’s been flung has either been transparently ridiculous or proven false.

Bush supporters, have you, at long last, no shame?

OK, got it! Russian Mafia recruits disgruntled soldiers to swipe Iraqi bang-nasty, in collussion with Uday Hussein…(not dead. Mossad plot. But I digress…) Mysterious disappearances of midgets throughout Europe, kidnapped and pressed into service as ventilation shaft mules, 5 kilos per midget per trip, 10,000 midgets, 6 hours tops.

Explosive on sale to highest bidder. Terrorst shmerrorist, rubles talk, Allah walks. Or they might just sell the whole load to Uzbekistan. Or maybe they have Georgia on thier mind…

So we’re supposed to believe the folks at the IAEA wouldn’t have thought of this, and placed a few seals across the ventilation shafts as well? :dubious:

To summarize via Occam’s Razor: the stuff was still at Al Qaqaa as of 4/18/2003, as confirmed by the ABC video. It got looted between that date and 5/31/2003 because the Bush Administration didn’t bother to secure the site.

And now 380 tons of high explosives are rattling around loose inside Iraq, another testament to the George W. Bush legacy. :smack:

It was the IAEA report which explicitly stated the limitations of the seals because of the ventilation slats (I incorrectly wrote “shafts” in my post).

And just how does Ockham’s Razor account for the multiplying of entities to include secret heavy trucks getting into the bunkers and removing the material on a road covered by US air and ground troops?

Don’t know that. Know it was there. Know when it was there. Know it’s not there now. That’s pretty much it, for what we know.

Not much. But enough.