It should be illegal to use “Al Sharpton” and “decent man” in the same sentence except as opposites. He makes Joe Kennedy look honest by comparison.
I don’t think so. I think Joe Kennedy was far nastier than Sharpton could ever be. Just not as slimy.
Bullshit, and weak bullshit at that.
Ask around about you? Who would I ask? I failed to notice the masses of posters coming to your defense. Is there no limit to your pretentiousness? I can read your posts here, and so can others. I’ll let them stand as testimony.
It is obvious that the only “cause” you are serving is your own pride and ego. You were wrong about me, and it wouldn’t have been a big deal if you hadn’t insisted on making it so. And for what? Because your ego was more important than your so-called cause.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I was away for a few days, and something like this shouldn’t stand.
You only prove that assholes can exist on both the left and the right.
Good Lord, are you still all worked up about this thread? You got your ass kicked by LHoD, and hard. It’s really not in your best interest to keep bringing that fact to everyone’s attention.
Jesus, they let you out again???
Great Buddha, you’re still posting on this?
What is my best interest, according to you? When did this alleged ass kicking occur? Just saying it doesn’t make it so. Sorry to burst your insular messageboard bubble world, but your friend was wrong, and abusive for no reason. Is that what passes for fighting ignorance around here? And you expect people to pay for it? Good luck with that, although I’m beginning to see that fighting ignorance has nothing to do with who gets a free ride here. Thanks, but I can get the typical messageboard pecking order structure for free.
He was right.
You’re a tiresome asshole.
You’re also a cowardly little shit who calls people racists and then acts like a victim when they get annoyed at you.
~hits you with a stick~
Yes.
I sure as hell hope that you won’t, and that soon you’ll go away.
Tell ya what, why don’t you save us all the time and energy and just leave now?
I can well understand why you of all people would want me to just go away. I’m a reminder of how stupid you can be when you are reduced to drunken rambling. Or did you rethink your vow to avoid this thread?
Oh, yes, you are certainly a reminder of how stupid I am. Yeep.
And, time passed, I saw that a useless waste of oxygen like yourself had come back, so I decided to tell you, yet again, that you’re a useless waste of oxygen. Although, to be fair, I think you’re also a waste of space, carbon, and bandwidth.
And by the way, simply because you’re too stupid to understand some rather simple English doesn’t mean I was drunk when I wrote it. No matter how stupid you are, it can’t get me drunk. Which is unfortunate, because otherwise a quick glance at your posts would be enough to get me pleasantly tipsy. And even if I had been drunk, to steal a bit from Churchill:
“Yes I’m drunk, and you are stupid. But tomorrow I will be sober.”
You don’t like the Dope.
Fine.
Go the fuck away.
Well first I defended Al and now I will defend Fearless Reader
He seems to be an intelligent poster that supports his post with details.
It looks like he was called liar for posting an unpopular opinion.
Why slam him so hard. He and I strongly but politely disagreed over Giuliani but I think he would make a good addition to the board. I like hearing opinions different from my own, especially when they can be backed up with intelligence. I reread this very long thread and many posts were much worse and much more offensive than Fearless Reader’s.
I think in most cases I am further to the right then you and it sounds like Fearless Reader is further to the left than most. Why the all out attack from yourself and LhoD?
Is there another issue I am missing?
I like you Finn and like your posts but I don’t like you asking intelligent posters to leave the board.
Fearless Reader, I really don’t think this is the normal exchange of ideas, but you wandered into a particularly virulent Pit Thread. Try to stay in GQ for a while to better appreciate what a great place this is.
I look forward to people from the Left and the right to inform us of viewpoints and facts. I usually don’t agree with Bricker but I strongly like his intelligence and ability to back up his opinion with well written posts and facts.
But as I write this too long post, upon preview I see you are both now engaged in a pissing match. So this is probably not going to help.
Jim
Look back at this thread. He was called a number of names for saying that those who didn’t agree with him were racists.
Because he’s a dishonroable piece of shit and a coward who, when faced with the fact that he’s insulting people, whines and pretends he’s a victim.
What intelligence is there in saying that those who disagree with you must be racists? That’s just about the dumbest, and slimiest tactic in the book. And, I will add, it totally defeates the free exchange of ideas if you will simply call those who disagree with you, racists.
Maybe, but cowards who throw the first punch and then whine like toddlers when someone responds to them are a pet peeve of mine.
You should know me well enough to know that I wouldn’t attack a poster for simply being left, or right. But this cowardly bullshit of calling people racists and then acting like a victim when they get upset is simply beyond the pale.
To my knowledge I haven’t. I’ve told a shit flinging coward who won’t take responsibility for his own actions and who seems to not like the Dope that he’s better off not being here.
Seriously, what possible good can come from a poster who may sometimes be lucid, but who carries around a massive chip on their shoulder and, at the first sign of trouble, will resorting to claiming that his opponents have ‘unexamined racist tendencies?’
That isn’t a marketplace of ideas, that’s some childish schmuck who throws a firebomb into the marketplace if he can’t get exactly what he wants.
Your posting too quick for me but on the intelligence part,
I did read the thread and it was more Bob Loblaw that flinging around racist too loosely. I don’t agree with a lot of what Fearless Reader but he did toss out an intelligent discourse on Rudy G. That is my primary reference for saying he was intelligent. Please refer back to those if you need some proof. Try around post 329.
Of course he needs to tone down calling people racist, but give him a chance to interact and see if his postings change.
BTW: Feel free to ask me to butt out, I won’t take offense.
I just happen to like most of what he has posted I actually took the time to read his 30 or so post. Most are sound.
Jim
Agreed, but they were both doing it. And IMO, both earned the reactions they got.
Fair enough… but there are plenty of people with ‘booksmarts’ who, let’s face it, are just dumb. Calling people racists, and then getting surprised and acting like a victim when you’re called out is both dumb, and, in my view, a serious character flaw.
Perhaps, but it seems that he still doesn’t understand what he did wrong, or why it was wrong. Indeed, the reason he came back to this thread seems to be to protest his innocence; hardly a mea culpa. I don’t have much hope of him getting it if he can’t understand why people who he insults, act like they’ve been insulted.
Naw, it’s no problem. I do, after all, enjoy discussing things with people who have alternate opinions. But call me a racist for disagreeing with you…
Indeed. But, as I see it, those are ruined by a massive character flaw.
Seriously, and to put a finer point on it:
If he’d returned and apologized for his rhetoric and said that he’d seen the light, and that he understands how his attitude can alienate even those who might support some of his ideas, I’ve have gladly welcomed him back. But to come back and be pugnacious and militant in his ignorance?
I just don’t think we can get blood from a stone.
Hey, I see your point, but the thread got very vicious and I think some of the venom that was aimed at Bob Loblaw fell on Fearless Reader and the level of venom was not conducive to getting someone to admit to a mistake.
As I posted, I am not colorblind and I wish I was, but I am still trying to overcome my gut instinct reactions. I think this is what Fearless was originally saying, but it sounded more like he was calling people racist.
Bob made no bones about it. I think he called everyone but me a racist. I think he even called Bill Cosby a racist by his definition. The only reason I escaped, is I share an unpopular position that Al is not the devil many see him as.
Jim
I wouldn’t mind admitting to a mistake but I don’t see where I made one. Please go back to my actual posts and point the mistakes out to me. I said it was my opinion that all of us have unexamined racist tendencies. All of us. That would include me too. For some reason, jrfranchi seemed to understand what I was saying, and expounded further. No one had a problem with that. So where is this alleged dishonesty, and the other horrible things I am being accused of?
As I said previously, if you disagree, fine. But nothing I said merited the abuse you and your friend decided to hurl my way. I never said you were a racist for disagreeing, so that is an outright lie. Why should I accept it? Because you are an established member and I am not?
Maybe there is no room here for new people unless they keep their nose down until they are established. I’m sorry I came here under these circumstances, but truth is truth, and you and your friend were wrong to attack me under any circumstances. If someone would like to point out why I should swallow your bullshit just because I have no standing here, that it is worth it somehow, I’d like to hear it. But there is no way I will pretend you are justified just because you got here first.
Jim, I appreciate your posts in my defense. I didn’t want to drag you into this. Maybe that is what I originally admired in you - you call it as you see it, no matter the consequences. That is what I aspire to myself.
By the way, I am not a “he”. I don’t think that should matter, but who knows. This whole attack doesn’t make any sense to me.
Well, you can’t really say that such a statement is just an opinion. If it’s your opinion that everybody is a racist, that means you’re calling everybody racists. The words ‘many’ and ‘some’ are good to stick to.
And you did of course personally insult LHoD by saying that he had racist tendencies. An opinion that’s an insult is still an insult.
Perhaps you don’t understand why you came off the way you did?
jrfranchi didn’t cast his statements as insults.
After LHoD told you that your rhetoric wasn’t helping, you said…
… you were, essentially, saying that those who got upset at Bob’s rhetoric were being ‘defensive’ and had racist tendencies to re-evaluate. That’s a pretty strong insult, even if you don’t mean it as such.
Your response to LHoD getting pissed off was, instead of telling him to get bent or what have you, to call him a racist as well.
That, by the way, is not only an insult about racism, but you’re saying that people aren’t introspective. So you’re saying that not only are people racists, but they don’t care enough about their behavior to look into it and try to do what’s right.
Again:
Not at all.
You say, clearly, that people reacting to Bob’s inflamatory intellectually bankrupt bullshit have unexamined racist tendencies that they’ll have to re-evaluate. This has nothing to do with how new you are.
You could, ya know, take accountability for your own words, which have nothing to do with me being here longer than you.
Sorry, I should’ve said that before LHod called you out, you made your statement about how people were being forced to re-examine their racist tendencies. After that you called him a racist.
Cutting and pasting in Word has its disadvantages.