Every religion makes the case that all other religions are made up, confused, historically inaccurate, irrelevant, and just a waste of time. I agree.
Hhhmmm…I thought skeptics were supposed to be the open minded sort…Collective stereotyping?
Hi jenkinsfan.
If you are not aware The Osip that wrote this OP is not really I. (please not post count difference, and date account started.) Also there is a nice thread about it in the pit. Alas, I have achieved fame on this board now, not as a regular contributing poster. But, as the name used by our newest troll.
Please pardon the confusion.
Osip
I think the other Osip has a point. What I don’t get is why we have to have so many Baptists disagreeing? There is no cause for that. They just bring each other down that way and the kids just here “those people are fools”, but they actually 80-% agree alot.
My religion doesn’t think this.
My Father’s house has many rooms.
Sorry about your bad luck, Osip. Is it true that someone who imitates another is dubbed a “troll”? BTW, do you have a clue why you are being targeted?
God bless,
jenkinsfan
Every religion makes the case that all other religions are made up, confused, historically inaccurate, irrelevant, and just a waste of time. I agree.
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Actually, that’s not accurate. Some religions, such as Baha’i or the Unitarians, believe that all religions contain at least some truth. In addition, every religion, even Islam, has its liberal wing that extends respect and an ecumenical olive branch to other faiths.
However, to be fair, you must remember that to a true believer, his religion is not a religion at all, but the Way Things Are. If Joseph Smith was a true prophet; if Mohammed received the Koran from the angel Gabriel; if Jesus died and was resurrected for the redemption of sins; then to a true believer, any contradictory proposition must be wrong and he is obligated to knock on their doors/wage jihad/start a Crusade to convince infidels that they are wrong.
I tend to be allergic to gods and superstition, but I admire
religious folk who burn with the fire of true faith; fundies tend to be a lot more fun than than religious liberals are.
I thought a “Troll” was someone who posted antagonistic stuff just to get a rise out of people rather than any genuine interest or belief in what they write.
Do I have that wrong?
I don’t get this one. (If it’s a christian bible reference, let me know. I have a “different” bible.)
I believe SD was paraphrasing John 14:2.7: “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” Although SD’s phrasing makes me think of the “many ways to the same God” philosophy.
It’s “mansions” in KJV, “rooms” in NIV (John 14:2).
Of course, almostly immediately following in John 14:6, He says, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (NIV) IMHO, that seems to nullify the “many ways” interpretation.
mrblue92,
I think you took it out of context.
The many rooms means that God has prepared a place for you. Not that There are many ways to get to God.
Um, are you talking to right person??? Or do you just not know what the word “nullify” means?
Unitarian Universalist checking in - we don’t inherently believe that every other religion is wrong.
Esprix
Esprix, I’ve heard your religion described as both a sect of Christianity and as a New Age version of Buddhism. What exactly do you believe?
hhhhmmmmm…
I believe your former post has changed…perhaps not
Must be Me
guess I should quote next time
I’ll start off by pointing you to http://www.uua.org, the home page for the Unitarian Universalist Association.
The roots of UU are Judeo-Christian - Unitarianism was the belief in one God, not a trinity, and Universalism believed that everyone would be saved on Judgement Day. The two denominations, having similar social and spiritual goals, combined in 1961, but both have been around for centuries.
Personally, I see us as spiritual Humanists, but this is an oversimplification. As you yourself has said, our God’s kingdom has many rooms, and just as many paths to those rooms.
From the UUA website:
It’s a start. Want to open a dialogue? (It might be OT from the OP, but another thread isn’t out of the question - I’ve been known to “witness” for UUism before.)
Esprix
Esprix, just to point out that the trinity is, by belief, one God.
If my UU history is correct, I suppose I should have more accurately said that Unitarians rejected the idea of the Trinity. Does that sound right?
Either way, they were heretics, as were the Universalists, for at least some part of history.
Esprix