Accusing a moderator of trolling? Yeah, that generally works out well here.
I haven’t seen the video, nor will I. But I’ve followed discussion re this by actual terrorism experts.
As to why it would fade to black, there are many reasons:
a) Foley fought back. The enemy doesn’t want to detract from their agenda, which is to terrify people. Foley fighting back, as a man fighting for his very life might, doesn’t help their cause. Recall that the passengers of Flight 93 were hailed as heroes, complete with a Hollywood movie. That’s hardly the image you’d want your target audience to walk away with. I assume that this is what people mean when they opine that perhaps it was badly done.
b) There were sounds or images that they didn’t want the viewer to hear. If, in the course of the beheading, the camera panned away from the anonymous blue sky to reveal an identifiable landmark or sound, that might tip off the US Intelligence as to where the assassins are keeping hostages. So they edited it out.
c) The assassin wimps out - Apparently, using a Westerner with a British accent as the executioner was a deliberate act. It’s supposed to scare us into believing that sympathizers are everywhere, not just a half a world away, and ready and able to attack us. If the assassin didn’t do his job with the appropriate amount of detached ruthlessness, it would have detracted from that goal. So they edited it out.
In any event, no matter why it was done, I believe he is dead at the hands of a ruthless enemy, and I feel really badly for him for having to endure that, and for his family for having to fill in the missing pieces in their minds.
If that were the definition of trolling, then most posters in GD would be banned.
If the question isn’t “meaningful” to you, and your posts don’t represent your actual opinions on the subject, you are posting just to yank peoples chains and hence are trolling. As I said, it’s really not a good idea to suggest that that’s what you are doing, since trolling is against the rules here and is a bannable offense.
It’s you who are making accusations of trolling or sock puppetry as opposed to discussing what the topic is. I’m under no obligation to pass any test by you or anyone else to provide my opinion on ths video especially in light of people making comments that have’nt even seen it. Note this included you, until you thought it was a good idea for you to see it.
I would say that the actual terrorism experts haven’t seen the video either. Sounds or images they don’t want the viewer to hear??? The cameras are on a tripod, they don’t move and segments are probably done at different times, perhaps days or months and put together as a unified whole.
The number one reason for fading to black is that they didn’t kill him at that moment.
As has been asked multiple times, what difference does that make?
This must have gotten missed in the shuffle:
Well, I’m sold now. The idea that ISIS could’ve discovered tripod technology is the height of preposterousness. As any film student/Middle East scholar/terrorism expert knows, all terrorists are bound by the rules of Dogme 95, and anyone who tries some slick Hollywood magic like holding the camera still or using decent microphones will pay dearly for his apostasy. Frankly, I’d say they’re on thin ice already using a prototype CPR dummy that isn’t even available in the USA. Getting careless in their zeal to hoodwink the EasyPhils of the world. As if that were even remotely possible.
I haven’t made any accusations of sock puppetry. And you were the one who admitted you weren’t posting your actual opinions, and thus trolling.
Actually, you are. If you manage to convince the staff that you are posting nonsense that you don’t believe just in order to get a rise out of people, you won’t be posting here much longer.
Foley murder may have been staged:
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The video of James Foley’s execution may have been staged, with the actual murder taking place off-camera, it has emerged.
Forensic analysis of the footage of the journalist’s death has suggested that the British jihadist in the film may have been the frontman rather than the killer.
The clip, which apparently depicts Mr Foley’s brutal beheading, has been widely seen as a propaganda coup for Islamic State miltant group.
But a study of the four-minute 40-second clip, carried out by an international forensic science company which has worked for police forces across Britain, suggested camera trickery and slick post-production techniques appear to have been used.
A forensic analyst told The Times that no blood can be seen, even though the knife is drawn across the neck area at least six times.
“After enhancements, the knife can be seen to be drawn across the upper neck at least six times, with no blood evidence to the point the picture fades to black,” the analysis said.
Sounds allegedly made by Foley do not appear consistent with what may be expected.
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So ISIS wants the Western world to believe that this British-speaking front man actually executed Foley, because they think that this will instill more fear in us. Whether or not he did, it’s agreed that Foley was executed by ISIS militants.
Little did they know that instead of quaking with fear, their enemy would focus more on their cinematography than in the actual killing.
Nailed it.
Regards,
-Bouncer-
I didn’t say I wasn’t posting my opinions, quite the contrary, what you’re saying is just stupid.
Posting nonsense, my posts have resulted in fighting your own ignorance of this video by actually watching it. Agains, this is just stupid stuff you’re writing.
As others have said, your own words are still here for others to read.
Now that Experts are saying the video was “staged” what do you folks have to say?
You’re still an asshole?
What I said before: So what?
I agree with So What in the sense that James Foley is still dead & was murdered by ISIS. But since the British are allegedly close to identifying the executioner in the video, the fact that the video may have been staged & the real murder took place off camera can cause a major problem in prosecuting him for murder. I hope I am wrong, but that is my concern.
The so what is, what the fuck are the experts doing:
a) one day saying "it’s confirmed as real
b) and some time later “um, perhaps it’s a simulation”
???
That does not inspire confidence in their expertise, and will be used against them by anyone who has an axe to grind.
Worst of all it lends a veneer of respectability to the batshit crazy CTers.
I don’t see where they mention the CPR dummy. Could you link to the Experts’ analysis of the neck and the elbow, and how they prove that it’s not Foley’s dead body? Thanks in advance.