Please Debunk this UFO Footage

In My Humble Opinion
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I was chatting to a new online acquaintance a few days ago when he stated that he is a firm believer in UFO’s, so I asked him to show me a convincing UFO video and he came up with the Turkish UFO incident of 2009 (a google search will bring up plenty of videos but here is a link)

http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/07/ufo-footage-so-clear-you-can-see-the-pilot-2442800.html

Now I don’t believe that footage is real but I have to admit it is a good one, and pretty damn creepy.

I’ve conducted some research to find evidence debunking it or proving it was a hoax but have so far came up blank and I was wondering of the generally sceptical bunch in here have any ideas proving its fake.

Something more detailed than ‘UFO’s aren’t real so obviously the video is a fake’ would be appreciated.

btw I noted a couple of websites that seemed to disprove it but they were so chock full of spyware, viruses and other nasty stuff that I didn’t hang around, UFO websites seem chockful of that stuff so be careful. I think, but I’m not certain, that the above link is OK.

Thanks!

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Blurry, dark video of an indeterminate object. Nothing to show scale or distance. Billy Meier did better. And his looked fake.

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One video says, “so clear you can see the pilot.” All I see is an out of focus image that could be anything, recorded by a hand-held, shaky camera. It could be a plane coming in for a night landing or a guy with a flashlight in a darkened room. What pilot?

I’ve seen fakes that looked better.

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When it zooms in you can definitely see what looks like at least one classic grey style alien, and a rather unfriendly looking one at that.

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What is there to debunk? These are shaky videos of what could be almost anything. The dark videos appear to be some metal junk reflecting a little bit of light in a dark room. They are likely no larger than a few inches across. One of them looks like the spout from a kitchen faucet masked off by some horizontal obstruction, possibly the sink. That’s the one that shows a blurry blob that is supposed to be an alien pilot but is actually nothing but a tiny spot of light greatly enlarged. Then there are some shaky shots of four lights very far away which are not moving and aren’t actually blinking on and off.

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How tall does he appear to be?

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How about "CGI and Photoshop are real, so the video is fake"?

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What’s the time stamp on that shot? I sat through most of the video and didn’t see anything that looked like that… or that looked like anything at all, for that matter.

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The most likely explanation: Ships on the distance or inflatable kites, with a pinch of a mirage:

http://www.alcione.org/FRAUDES/00TURQUIA/

Yeah, I have seen some that declare that Alcione was debunked by looking at the horizon and the moon, the problem is that the horizon is not clear in the video so it is the analysis of the UFO proponents the ones that I have more doubts about.

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The thing I have the biggest problem with is the sightings happened over the course of different nights, even different years, apparently. Didn’t the guy who first videotaped it tell other people about it? If he did, surely there would have been more people, some with much better cameras (and tripods, for God’s sake) shooting video at the later sightings. Why didn’t that happen? Where is the professional quality video from the other videographers who would have doubtlessly been present at the subsequent “visitations”?

That alone makes me think it’s a hoax.

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I watched a minute and a half. Whatever he’s recording for that minute and a half is stationary. It doesn’t move out of frame, nor change angle.

Granted, it does look a* little *like the bridge protuberance of a Xi’nar security vessel, but way, way out of their normal stomping grounds, and those things are battleship-sized. He’d have to be standing on the hull. :wink:

More likely it’s some boring household object he’s just zooming in and out on.

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OK, I went back and watched more. I saw more household objects. A kitchen faucet, maybe? Anyway, nothing he’s shooting for the first three minutes is moving; he’s just zooming in and out.

The thing with four lights in the fourth and fifth minutes appears to be surface level, rather than flying. Unidentified driving object?

OK, the last two minutes do actually appear to be outside. Look, a moon. He’s facing roughly south, and I guess that’s not a faucet, but some kind of outdoor construction behind a hill. He’s still just zooming in and out on a stationary object. I don’t know why it stays blurry.

Anyway, there’s no UFO, because the only arguable “flying object” in the whole thing is the Moon, and all the nighttime shots are even basically the same angle. I think it’s a building obscured by a ridge, that the videographer thinks looks cool.

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I’ve seen better videos shot in outer space and thousands of feet underwater. How come UFO videos are always such bad quality? I can think of one strong reason.

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Things like this aren’t a question of proof—no, I can’t prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this isn’t actual footage of big-headed scrawny grey dudes with black eyes travelling perhaps thousands of light years through space just to buzz some random dudes out at night in faraway places, carefully selected for having the worst camera equipment available at the time. The question is: why would I entertain the hypothesis that this is what’s going on in the first place?

Take a look at the data we have. There’s a video, blurry, unfocused, jittery, of some dimly-lit object, with nothing else for comparison of scale, distance, movement, and so on. There’s thousands of things that could be responsible for this data; jumping to the ‘it’s aliens’ conclusions betrays a strong bias on the viewer, because out of the many things that could be portrayed in the video, there are several which we already know in fact exist (household objects, CGI, planes, cars, and so on). So already on that front, the alien hypothesis seems right out.

So when, if ever, should we take the alien hypothesis seriously? And the answer is, when any other hypothesis equally capable of explaining the data pales in comparison of likelihood. And this is just not the case here: what’s more likely, some guy producing a cheap fake for a laugh, or maybe even being honestly mistaken, or this being an actual, honest to god visitation by beings from another world, undetected save for one guy with his crappy cell phone camera?

It’s nothing but Bayesian updating: if you’re already convinced that aliens are real and visit Earth—if, on some other grounds, you have good cause for belief in this hypothesis, whether that cause is justified or not—then the video may be taken as evidence corroborating your belief. But if you’re not so convinced, even if you’re neutral on the issue, the video should not sway you towards belief one whit.

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In the first video, except for the video shot over the ocean of the four blinking lights, they’re all footage of the tops of skyscrapers, cropped by a perfectly straight line - the ‘bottom’ of each ‘UFO’ is a perfectly straight line - either the top of a fence or wall, or piece of black paper.

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Note to self: Stop focusing on objects when you video them. Make them blurry, avoid using stabilizers, and open the iris wide so points of light bloom. That way you will attract more UFO enthusiasts who can fantasize about what they are looking at.

Oh, and holding the cam upside down wouldn’t hurt. Don’t forget to add spooky music.

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I think the straight line is the horizon of the sea.

There were a couple of shots that made it look like a shipwreck, but if the dates on teh video are accurate (and they may not be) that doesn’t necessarily add up, though there was a shipwreck in the Marmara Sea in 2008.

It may not even be wrecked.

The other likely possibility is that it’s a reflection in the window of a building behind the house. If it’s in a lookout tower, for example, there will be windows on all four sides of a single room, causing reflections of reflections.

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At 6:06 it looks like this: b4in.net

And if you magnify where the arrow points it looks like this: b4in.net

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There’s a better zoomed in image of two apparent figures, but it might be in one of the linked videos. I understand if you don’t feel like search through them all!

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What makes them apparent figures? How big are these aliens? What kind of aliens are these? Do you have some pictures of actual aliens to compare them to?