I was joking. But you hit below the belt.
I am beginning to think this message board has too many snotty bastards in it.
That and the stupidly long wait for anything to happen makes me wonder why I bother with it. I think I bother because it’s got some decent people in it too. People who don’t get a thrill from insulting others.
Another snotty bastard who gets a thrill from insulting people I see.
Well I have the last life because while you gutterslime get a shot in and make me feel bad for a few moments. I get to spend the rest of my life not being a basterd. But your kind suffer from the effects of your shitty attitudes.
If you are going to stoop lower and say “contadiction - you just insulted me”. Just know that I didn’t get a thrill from it.
I meant ‘bastard’ and ‘laugh’ not ‘basterd’ and ‘life’ I have a splitting headache which makes it kinda hard to be fully aware of what I am typing. Will you insult me for those mistakes I wonder?
Typos aren’t insult-worthy. A series of half-assed notions trying to form an idea might be, but this is just sad.
Not in Great Debates.
P.S. ‘Alright’ isn’t a word.
Pedantry, lack of ability to understand simple English. and more snottiness. Keep it up guys. Lower and lower you go.
Pedantry, lack of ability to understand simple English. and more snottiness. Keep it up guys. Lower and lower you go.
P.S. I can see I hit a nerve. It’s obvious.
Pedantry, lack of ability to understand simple English. and more snottiness. Keep it up guys. Lower and lower you go.
P.S. I can see I hit a nerve. It’s obvious.
Arg! Browser ate the rest of my post, which was:
You’d have to do a lot of convincing to persuade me that capitalism is worse structurally now than in the period from 1890-1930 (which is when Marx was writing for, incidentally). Then, workers got hardly any wages, the market was dominated by only a few monopolies, try and unionize and you’d be fired or killed, etc. etc. Marx’s theories were a natural outgrowth of the idea that capitalism would stay like that indefinitely, which it didn’t. Capitalism may become obsolete eventually, but its sucessor will probably be obvious then, and not at all obvious now.
Erm. According to the dictionary it is.
Try again.
I’ll bravely step forward and feed the troll so the rest of you can escape. Yes, I’ll take a troll for the SDMB. Tell Cecil I love him (as a friend as a friend!)
So, lobley, what do you really think about capitalism?
You just can’t resist it can you. You have a problem man.
If you think I am a troll then you obviously haven’t been in newsnet. Trolls get thrills from annoying and insulting people (sound familiar)
The little I know is that it his bad points and good points. I thought joining threads about it would help me learn things. All it did was make everyone pile on me.
Okay, what what are the ‘bad points’ and ‘good points’ as you see them? And what makes you think the good outweighs the bad? Also, where did you get the information on which you based your opinion?
Nooooo, Sexy! He’s too… well, not “powerful”, but something bad.
lobley: so, wanna make a bet how long capitalism is going to last? If you honestly belive capitalism is doomed, then shares of IBM in the year 2015 should be going for pennies. I’ll bet you ten cases of borscht vs. a promisory note to buy me ten shares of IBM on June 1st, 2015. What have you got to lose, except your chains?
You know, it’s odd. Frequently when I post some off hand remark I will look back and realize that I really did mean what I said.
lobley asked “what happens after Capitalism fails?” I answered “feudalism”. Now that I think about it a little more, feudalism may be the default setting for the human species.
With order, the best way we have figured out to operate is capitalism - people want to be rewarded for their effort. In the future this capitalism may operate under democratic, monacratic, oligarchic, theocratic, or even fascist governments. Who the hell knows?
But if a disaster were to hit and derail all the normal capitalistic chains of trade, humans sure as hell wouldn’t be communist. Communism requires more cooperation than we can even achieve now; it would be impossible if chaos is in the equation. Instead, we would gravitate to those who had resources. Feudal kingdoms would develop around these pockets, so small that one man (or woman) leads them, and the system would persist because the alliances among neighboring communities would be weak and based on personal gain. It is through these loose aliances that we would rebuild.
But the merchants would be the first to heal civilization’s wounds.
As I said i know (very) little. I think the good points are that Allows for people who are determined enough to be successful. And the bad points are that companies grow and grow and (although the total number of companies doesn’t diminish) companies get ‘eaten up’ by other companies.
That was thought of right now so it’s probably crap. I am sure If I had more time I could access more information (in my brain somewhere) and come up with a better answer.
I got the information from a long conversation in a car with my step-dad who is very clever. Not that it proves cleverness but he has a masters degree in politics (or something like that)
First, you may want to check out this site:
http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus.html
It has a lot of statistics about businesses you may find surprising, such as most businesses are actually self employed entrepreneurs and about half of the work force works for smaller companies (<500 people), not bigger ones.
That said, companies do not simply grow and grow forever. Enron? Andersen? KMart? and so on. Forget major screw ups, companies spin off business units all the time. Why? Because the Megagigantacorp is not always the most efficient way to do business.
Even when companies do merge, the merger is not always successful. Nearly 4/5s of all mergers fail.
Yes industries do consolidate as they mature, but new industries pop up all the time. And when these new industries form, dozens if not hundreds of new companies form.
Capitalism will likely never collapse as long as there are a scarcity of resources (which will be always). As long as one set of goods can be traded for another capitalism has a place in the world.
Goodness! “Snotty Bastard,” “You have a problem, man,” “mental,” “But your kind suffer from the effects of your shitty attitudes,” “lack of ability to understand simple English,” cross accusations of trolling . . .
Boy, will I be glad when the mods get back from vacation!
Capitalism is cyclical.
Only when you have an artificially inflated money supply. Or government interference in the market. Which, I suppose, are the same thing.
Communism: works well, for about six weeks
Failing: human lust for power, human greed
Capitalism: works OK for centuries on end
Failing: human lust for power, human greed
Socialism: works horribly for about six minutes
Failing: human lust for power, human greed
Facism: not even a theory, much less a defined system; works for however long is necessary
Failing: human failure to recognize some form of morality
Noticing a pattern here? It’s all because of human failures that human systems don’t work. SO, until the Second Coming, and God starts running things directly, we just have to get by…