How butthurt sensitive of a person do you have to be to personalize a thread that has nothing to do with you? Look at you, hanging off my every word in this thread, lliterally searching for a reason to feel offended. That’s pathetic. Especially since we’re talking about raw vegetables. Not politics. Not religion. But a name for cutup veggies.
I’m sorry that my opinion about word choice has upset you, though. Truly, that was not my intention. You too Sparky or anyone else who has combed my posts looking for personal insults. I give you full permission to use crudites, okay? Shit, I’ll even give you some crudites.
Jesus, what the hell? He was rightly pointing out that you basically called anyone who uses the word carafe sheltered, pretentious, etc. Which is kind of a weird thing to think in the first place and now you’re going all Internet Defcon on him about it.
I’m butthurt sentitive, personalizing a thread that has nothing to do with me, searching for reasons to be offended… blah, blah, blah?
I believe I was pointing out that these words are normal for me and YOU have been calling people names because they aren’t for you. Which I did because YOU challenged someone to find one of your posts to support their position that you were the one making a big fuss about the use of a word or two you don’t know.
So, I guess I’ll retract this… You over sensitive… NO WAY!!!
You noticed that I said this in response to someone hoitily declaring that a coffee pot needs to be referred to as a carafe, right? And the last sentence was in response to him implying that my co-workers are sheltered because they don’t refer to a coffee pot as a carafe. Why is his post appropriate, but I can’t respond in kind without being brow beaten.
I just looked back at the first two pages of this thread and saw more than half of dozen other people calling “crudites” users pretentious and snobbish. So I have no idea why yall have glommed onto my posts. I guess I should flattered, but I’m more annoyed than anything else.
Since I haven’t called anyone a name (except maybe butthurt sensitive…which is indisputable at this point), I find your emotional response to what I’ve written to be 100% batshit insane. The most I said was that a particular action is stupid. (OMG!!!) But I haven’t called anyone pretentious, jerkish, snobbish, or showy offy. And you know this because you’ve combed every single post of mine in search of nits to whine about.
You are practically bawling because a random poster on the Dope said that using “crudite” in the workplace is stupid. So pardon me if I find your credibility on what constitutes being oversensitive a little lacking. And the all caps and exclamation points make for the perfect cherry on top.
Honestly? About as butthurt and sensitive as you have to be to get your panties in a wad and start a thread about how some horrible asshole called some cut-up veggies crudites and made you feel bad.
If it bothers yall that I implied that “even the most pretentious among us” doesn’t refer to a coffee pot as a carafe, I’m sorry. But they don’t. People call coffee pots, coffee pots where I’m from. Maybe you dispute the idea that a pretentious person would use carafe instead of coffee pot, and that’s your perrogative, but it’s certainly not a personal attack on people who generally use the word. Because then I’d be attacking myself.
What’s interesting is the poster I was responding to was the one suggesting that “carafe” is the only correct way to refer to a coffee pot. He also suggested that only sheltered people do otherwise.
There’s no need to act as if I was talking in a vaccuum here. It’s only fair that if someone is going to call people sheltered for not knowing “carafe”, I will call them sheltered for not knowing that “coffee pot” is a perfect servicable and more recognizable word.
Please re-read the post of mine that you find so emotional and offensive. I countered a statement you made with my personal experience as a number cruncher that using the term crudite would not be considered stupid (as you had stated as fact).
Then I countered your statement that “coffee pot” is the only correct name for the glass part of a coffee maker that collects the brewed coffee by referencing the best known source of this product and pointed out that they call it a carafe. I never suggested you were sheltered for using “coffee pot” anywhere in that post or anywhere else.
Please show me where you read emotions or sobbing into by post.
Which reminds me… you wonder why people are seeking out your posts when there are tons of others similar. Only you challenged us to “Show one post of mine to support this.”
In my earlier “emotional” post I questioned why I was getting involved… Oh yeah, I just remembered… it is great fun to watch a poster crash and burn when they try to deny/defend their previous posts after they themselves called people out to prove them wrong. Sometimes they will even respond to criticism by calling a poster “butthurt” or “batshit insane.” (which I believe would be a violation of the rules of this forum, but I’m not complaining… I’m not that emotional).
Gotta run now to discuss the new technique Alton had for preparing prawns (first name only reference to a food network star and a “foreign” name for really big shrimp… I love being a pretentious jerk).
The word may not be as common as I thought but what I thought was weirdest about the OP was that monstro assumes the woman is using all these words just to be obnoxious. I’ve noticed monstro posting about her social issues a lot (not liking people/wanting to be friends with them) and it just struck me that maybe she was making too much of it because of her own stuff.
Maybe where you’re from it’s routinely called a carafe. If you read my post with the intent to understand me–and not strain for offense where none was intended–you would have seen that my point was that, “in the lands that I’ve inhabited” (i.e. where I’m from), a coffee pot is referred to as a coffee pot. Not a carafe. So I would never refer to it as that around my co-workers and frankly, no one else either.
Maybe where you’re from things work differently. Maybe no one would know what a coffee pot is, while everyone knows what a carafe is. Doesn’t mean you’re pretentious, a snob, or whatever, and I never said otherwise.
Unless you’re a sock for sh1bu1, you weren’t the poster I was replying to in that post. Am I misunderstanding you?
By claiming that I’ve called you or anyone else names in this thread strongly suggests that you’re letting emotions get the way of your reading comprehension. An honest reader will see that I haven’t said any of things you’ve accused me of saying. Other posters introduced pretention, snobs, etc. into this discussion. I didn’t say that “crudite” is a $27 word, didn’t say the only reason people use it is to show off, and I didn’t call anyone a jerk. I simply committed the crime of saying that there’s certain conditions in which foreign substitutions should be avoided. There’s no cause for getting geeped up over some relatively mild comments that I’ve said about choosing your words smartly. Really.
If what I’ve said has merited this much attention from you, please don’t visit the poll thread about “crudites”. Some of the opinions in there will really mess up your day.
No, you just said “sticking to carafe” (what ever the fuck that means, is using it at all ‘sticking’ to it?) would make you the dense one. So we are being dense by using the same word as Mr Coffee does. Maybe you should organize a boycott or something and call it a freedom container.
Refusing to modify your speech so that your audience can understand you is stupid if your goal is to be understood. If your goal is not to be understood, then hey, it’s not so stupid.
If I know for a fact that most of my co-workers routinely refer to a coffee pot as a coffee pot, not as a “carafe”, can’t you see the stupidity in posting a sign that reads “Who took the carafe?” when the coffee pot turns up missing? To me this would be monumentally stupid and dense. This is what I mean by"sticking to carafe at all costs". It means using a certain word, even when you know a lot of people won’t understand you, just because you can.
Can you please explain what is so controversial about this opinion? It seems you think this statement is a slam against anyone who, for whatever reason, mistakenly assumes that they will always be understood when they use certain words like “crudites”. But I’m only talking about people who don’t care whether people understand them–they stick to certain words for more pretentious purposes. If you don’t do this, then I’m not talking about you and there’s no reason to get your drawers twisted.
A mild suggestion: if folks would talk to one another as if they’re trying to understand one another, not as if they’re trying to beat the other person into admission that they’re wrong wrong wrong, this thread wouldn’t be quite such a trainwreck. I believe folk agree on the essentials and are getting really worked up over misunderstandings.
Well of course, if you know other people refer to it as a coffee pot and don’t know what carafe means it would be silly to call it that. But that is not what this thread is about (or has become). There are those of you saying that it is pretentious to use certain words EVEN WHEN WE THINK THEY ARE COMMON. For me, coffee pot and carafe are two different things. To me, crudite is a fairly common word.
So don’t judge me as being pretentious because I don’t know what terms you use.
Your realize, of course, that you could have omitted the first four paragraphs of your posting and still have asked the question you finally got around to.
Okay, I saw the poll first. However, now that I’m here: First, I wouldn’t think the OP was an idiot for not knowing this word. Neither would I think the coworker used it to make her feel stupid. This coworker (a) gets under the OP’s skin in other ways, and (b) is a foodie who’s real familiar with these words.
However, hey! The OP now knows a new word!
I hate it, though, when I use a word that my coworkers don’t understand. The last time it happened the word was “detritus,” I used it in connection with my son’s room, and my boss didn’t understand it. I figured (a) I had mispronounced it, or (b) I had used it wrong. My boss of course went right to her dictionary and assured me that I had both pronounced and used it correctly, and yet, she had never heard it before. And it surprised me, but I daily run into words I’ve never seen before, or words I’ve seen and forgotten what they mean, or people will pronounce a word and I will recognize it and realize that I have been mispronouncing it myself for my whole life (“lugubrious” and “truculent”). I don’t think people are trying to make me feel like an idiot. (If I mispronounce it, I’m the one who will feel like an idiot, which is why I’ve never used “crudites” in conversation, and a lot of other words as well. Like “foyer.”) And my boss and I are editors, so it’s kind of our job to know a lot of words.
I went to work part-time in Macy’s jewelry department, where everybody pronounced the word I had always said as “Pair-a-dot” as “Pair-uh-doe.” (I think I started a thread about it.) I think the French pronunciation sounds kind of pretentious. On the other hand, I don’t want to sound like a hick. So “this green gem,” that ought to cover it, right? It’s my birthstone and I can never say the word again.