A bored brain genie just put this selling point together, with the idea of the hotornot.com website, and I like the result. It would consume a lot less bandwidth, too, since you’d only need to show one picture.
I also just got a marvelous idea for a website consisting solely of ladies in standard porn poses, but all in full chador veils. And damn me for not thinking of it a few years earlier when venture capital flowed like tap-water, I could have already joined Mr. Rushdie in hiding.
JTR -
Where do you get your information? I don’t have the time or energy to waste educating your ignorant ass, but ask anyone - much of what you say is clearly false.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not usually attracted to guys who wear checkered tablecloths on their heads.
JTR -
Here’s a quick primer on that guy that doesn’t concern you too much.
He’s worth an estimated 300 million dollars and is the main finacier for terrorist organisations around the world. His business interests are far flung and they are both ligitimate and otherwise. He handles/launders billions of dollars and is the defacto finance minister for Afghanistan’s Taliban.
He is not some backwater dirt farmer with a grudge against the U.S. but a former operative of the C.I.A. that fought the Russians in Afghanistan and won.
He has been responsible for the deaths of thousands of people and leads a massive terrorist organisation that spans the globe.
Lucky thinks he’s a hottie.
Where the fuck did I put that clue stick?
All I know is that bin Laden will look considerably better when flies lay eggs in his vacant eye sockets and the shit from his final bowel movement dries and hardens on his cold, dead ass.
Gee, Lucky, I hope I didn’t fuck up the fantasy for you.
Here is a quote from last Friday’s Wall Street Journal:
“Exiled from his native Saudi Arabia, Osama bin Laden is trapped inside Afghanistan, the only country that will shelter him. He suffers from chronic kidney disease and depends on a dwindling fortune inherited from his father. As of this week, he is also the most wanted man in the world…
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…[As a result of his terrorist activities across the years], Mr. bin Laden also was pushed out of the political mainstream, sometimes by countries acting under U.S. pressure. Saudia Arabia canceled his passport in 1991 and removed his citizenship in 1994 [he’s a Saudi native]. He was forced out of Sudan in 1996. He had a construction business here, and the action caused Mr. bin Laden to lose a lot of money…
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…[Speaking of the hidden terrorist cells,] despite their global reach, many of these cells aren’t always very sophisticated or even well-financed. Algerian terrorist Ahmed Ressam, trained in a bin Laden camp in 1998 and convicted this summer for the aborted West Coast Millennium attack, supported himself through credit-card fraud and petty theft. What marks them instead is their dedication and their willingness to die for the cause…”
These few snippets are from a long, in-depth analysis on starting on page 1 of Friday’s Wall Street Journal written by Chris Cooper and five other reporters. If you get down to a newsstand before Monday morning, you can probably find a few copies still lying around. This material largely reflects the same thing I’ve read in other articles and in other places.
Osama B is not a superman. He’s not even nearly as rich as he once was. One of the reasons that he finds Afghanistan a handy place to live (according to another article I read) is that it’s cheaper to run his training camps there than most other places in the world.
By the way, the Wall Street Journal doesn’t play down the ease with which he’ll be vanquished. He is constantly on the move, so he’s hard to locate at any point in time. A simple commando raid won’t suffice. It will probably take a lot of pressure and heat of one type or another on the Taliban government before he is disgorged or forced to move on. Also, those hidden cells and fanatical followers are a real problem. I spelled that out in my message above. They can be dealt with, but they’re not going to go away overnight. That’s taken for granted.
Still, the U.S. has been following his movements for 10 years, and a lot is known about him. He’s not a superman. He’s a hunted man on the run, hiding in a remote backwater. And rich or not, it’s hard to take down a superpower from halfway around the world. 300 million doesn’t go as far as it once did. We still have a lot of options. We’ve contained Libya and we’ve contained Iraq, and they’re much more powerful than him. If Osama is tough, it’s precisely because he’s small fry–small enough to stay mobile and hard to catch. But we’ll ultimately contain Osama, even if it means setting up a cordon around Afghanistan.
And the hidden cells and suicide squads will eventually close up shop. They need victories to keep the fire alive. You turn up the heat, pressure them, and show them that they have no effect, and they’ll die out. No one wants to give his life for a lost cause. We’ve had other enemies that were fanatical to the point of suicide (think of Japanese soldiers in World War II), but they ultimately recognized a lost cause when they were faced with one. We’ve been through this kind of thing before, and we’ve survived it. We’ll survive this too.
By the way, you said, “He is not some backwater dirt farmer with a grudge against the U.S. but a former operative of the C.I.A. that fought the Russians in Afghanistan and won.” That’s misleading. You make it sound like he was a general who won the war. He was a recruiter. His primary task was builing a recruitment system to find fighters to help the Mujahideen and setting up training camps. These contacts formed the basis of the network of terrorists that he uses today, and I agree that they are not to be sneezed at. But he wasn’t a combat commander, he didn’t personally win the war in Afghanistan, and I suspect that “CIA operative” way overstates his ties with the American trainers in Pakistan who provided arms and training to the various resistance forces during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Wall Street Journal article simply says that “he came into contact with Americans helping train the rebels.” I’ve never seen a reputable source refer to him as a full-fledged “CIA operative.”
I stand by what I said in my earlier message.
Had a family member or friend been working on the 105th floor of the WTC on September 11, 2001, I daresay bin laden’s “sexiness” would have escaped your notice.
Just as a lot of posters will remember your utter insensitivity for having posted this thread and will consider you “ugly” regardless of what you physically look like.
Lucky - don’t let all these holier-than-thou folks get to you. We’re all in shock I would think and humor is certainly one way to cope. I spend part of my news-watching time debating which station has the “hottest” reporters. So far I like that Canadian girl on CNN late-night.
As for your observation, they don’t have much footage of him on television but he looks kind of effeminate to me. You might be barking up the wrong tree.
I think Lucky maybe feels disturbed by the fact that she thinks he’s good looking. I mean, come on peeps, don’t make her feel bad. She also said, she thinks he’s an ass!
So Fucking WHAT? Good lord, people, pull your heads out of your asses for once! This is NOT helping to fight ignorance.
It’s ignorant to think that just because someone admires the physical appearance of a jackass, that person is ready to marry the bastard. Jesus Christ on a stick, people, you make Baby Cecil Cry!!!
It’s not that she thinks he is sexy (I personally don’t give a shit if he makes her cream her jeans), it’s that saying so at this point in time was a cloddish, insensitive, assholish thing to do.
This reminds me…A few weeks ago there was a pretty busy thread asking what would happen if a human mated with a chimpanzee.
I think we have a lack of healthy sexual activity in some quarters of the SD ‘community’. And we are seeing the results.
This has got to be the most bizarre thread ever.
I want to think that Lucky is mocking bin Laden, the way Mel Brooks did with some music video a while back. I remember in the '80s he did some Nazi spoof film, and had this utterly tasteless music video with scantily-clad Nazi dudes and chicks dancing around, as he did some hilarious Hitleresque imitation. Really bizarre. When asked about this video, Brooks (who I believe is Jewish) said he wanted to mock anything to do with Nazis, to take away any self-importance they might feel. To reduce them to clowns and clods. He hoped that mocking Nazis in such a way would make them look ridiculous, and therefore they’d be less attractive to young Neo-Nazi/skinhead types.
It was a long time that I saw this interview, but at the time, it made sense. I don’t know if his methods were effective, but I understood his reasoning.
I’d like to think that Lucky’s kinda doing the same thing, or rather, that it can be taken that way. I mean - wouldn’t bin Laden be offended and disgusted to think that some sinful American chicks thought he was…hot?!?!
Oh well, it’s a thought…
[sub]No, I don’t think he’s hot. He’s weird-looking, and creepy.[/sub]
Oh he’s hot stuff all right!
Let’s take a reading.
Hmmmm 98.6 degrees farenheit
Oops! There’s a bit of a jump. 12,000 degrees farenheit. Hope he’s got a good sunblock.
As I understand it, that is the amount he inherited in 1968 or therabouts…and these days he’s mostly spending it, not investing wisely.
I like what JTR had to say.
And for the record, Lucky, while I would never have put up a thread, knowing full well the reaction it would get, from a completely dispassionate viewpoint, yes, I have found myself thinking that he is a handsome man.
stoid
Oh God, that’s so funny. I’m laughing my ass off.
The chicks really dig his Manute Bol build, fanatical eyes, and scraggly beard, because he’s one heck of a sugar daddy, pimpin’ ho’s all over Kabul.
It’s his eyes. I bet he has nice hands too.
It’s just a joke, people. This week has been fucked up enough without everyone sitting around waiting for the first opportunity to get really really offended.
Just like this guy.
I’d just like to chime in with my support for Lucky. As tasteless as this thread is – and it’s very, very tasteless – one so rarely has the opportunity to tell a really good joke. It’s not even a “ha-ha” kind of joke, which makes this all the more impressive. This is almost a Zen non-joke . . . but now I’m reaching for adjectives.
It’s a joke that’s both at our expense (witness all the vitriol directed at the OP) and for our benefit – I mean, Jesus, couldn’t we all use a little detachment from this awful situation?
It’s Lucky selling herself to the dark side and bringing everybody’s displaced anger to the surface . . . all with an air of whimsy and an innocent giggle.
Finally, it took balls. Even if the same thought had occurred to me (and if I had been, you know, gay) I wouldn’t have even considered posting it. Some of you, I’m sure, will never “speak” to Lucky again. Your loss.
I never do this, but in this case I’ll make an exception: 
Hehe, I laughed outloud at that.
And about ObL’s looks…I feel bad 'cause my next door neighbor looks almost exactly like him, (sans the beard and turban) and he is a really great guy who I’ve known for most of my life. I hope he doesn’t catch any shit for it.
And don’t say he has a Manute Bol build! He is roughly the same height/weight as me! 