Amazon Lord of the Rings series; The Rings of Power

Doubling back. In retrospect Gil-galad was correct and wise in trying to send Galadriel back to paradise, fearing that her pursuit wound cause what she feared. Or some line to that effect.

How the hell did he know or even suspect that?

We’re re-watching to enjoy the foreshadowing.

How do you know that? That is not a complaint that I’ve heard in person nor read on the various media feedback from the viewers, even those who really dislike it. I’ve just read through the loads of the Rotten Tomatoes low scores and that isn’t mentioned.
It seems to be the standard accusation against people who really don’t like it though.

For what it’s worth, here’s an article about how the show is being rated on Amazon itself.

Most of the 1 star reviews you can see are focused on the show not being faithful to Tolkien’s source material, and I am not seeing any of the “dwarves and elves shouldn’t be black” type pushback we’ve seen on the internet about the show. I assume it’s possible that outright racist/sexist reviews are policed and deleted, leaving the ones that are more about the substance of the show, the characters, the writing, and the supposed lack of faithfulness to Tolkiens’ work. I saw one review that spent a whole paragraph on how the elves shouldn’t have short hair. People have lots of thoughts.

The racism against the show is real, it’s all over social media. But I don’t believe those people are giving the show bad reviews. I don’t think they are bothering to review it at all, they just malign it in tweets and social media site posts.

That’s much more in line with my own experiences of those who have seen it.

I don’t consume social media so don’t see any of the other stuff but seeing as I don’t think a trawl of social media is ever going to give you a balanced view of actual opinion, I don’t think I’m missing out on much.

Amazon’s prime directive (pun intended) is to spotlight only the reviews that show how wonderfully received and popular the show has been. Along with that, the producers make ludicrous claims that “Sauron is just like Satan from Milton’s Paradise Lost!” and he will be “Tony Soprano and Walter White” in the second season. Online rags like Hollywood Reporter write articles that “RoP surpasses PJ’s LotR in some ways like how characters of different sizes are depicted in scenes together” while ignoring how diminutive Galadriel looks in almost every interaction with any character throughout the first eight episodes.

‘Those who feel like there was not enough canon in the first season - in the second season we are giving it to them’ (not gonna look up the producer’s actual wording). IMHO it’s far too late to salvage this truly horrible show. Sure, write me off as a Tolkien Lore-ist yet I was ready to like this show. The show ran roughshod over major plot points and tone that no further episodes can ever recover from.

I agree. The show is solidly mediocre. My likes and dislikes:

Likes:

  1. The cast. No complaints.

  2. The visuals. The settings, Numenor, Eregion, the armor, the jeweled daggers, etc., like it all

Dislikes:

  1. The Harfoots. They’re boring and they need to wash their faces.

  2. The story is waaaaaay underwritten. Too little happens way too slowly.

  3. The dialogue can be very cringey. For example, in the season finale, which was my favorite episode, almost every line of dialogue was badly written, and worst of all were Halbrand’s lines. The sequences of his “helping” Celebrimbor were sooooo clunky. Ugh.

Compare another show I’m watching right now, House of Dragons which is similar in a lot of ways in that it adapts source material that is not in traditional narrative fiction form. In one case it’s a bunch of reference material. In another case it’s a fictional history book. Very close.

I’m House of Dragons they’ve managed to create at least some level of entertaining drama.

Slight nitpick: It’s “House of the Dragon”

Yep, because it is “woke”.

I read a good number of the 1 star reviews on Amazon. Before some of us reported them, a LOT of one star reviews were complaining about blacks and the show being “woke”. Amazon has removed most of them, then took away the one star option, then brought it back.

And the funny thing is that the racial diversity of the cast has had absolutely no impact on the show. There are enough black characters randomly scattered about that the race of the characters means nothing at all.

I was referring to the low scores that are there on the various (non-amazon) review sites right now. The vast majority of which have nothing to do with race or wokeness as the primary complaint.

The “race of the characters” is dwarf, elf, human, etc. Are we supposed to think of the characters as being of different races just because the actors playing them have different color skin or features that we associate with different races in our world?

Sorry, yeah, i typed that wrong. It was late at night. The race of the actors means nothing.

The race of the character: elf, dwarf, half elf, orc, harfoot… is of course central to the story.

They want to have a boring life, but I wouldn’t say that they are boring.

And dirty faces makes sense in their environment, given the lack of permanent homes and running water.

What always gets me, though is when people in such an environment have perfect teeth.

From a practical standpoint, most people photogenic enough to become TV/film actors have good teeth, and dental prosthetics can make it hard to talk or emote properly. I had to have my top teeth removed about a decade ago, and though I had dentures at first, I chose to stop wearing them because they made me talk with a lisp.

People in those societies also ate a lot less sugar than we do.

I know, it just always brings me out of a story a bit to see pre industrial civilizations with such excellent dental care.

That doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is that everyone’s hair is perfect. That’s actually not a complaint i have with this show, but it bothers me all the time in this kind of show.

I think having all the cast have messy hair would be a continuity nightmare.

you don’t think it’s a continuity issue if a character just battled and at the end, her hair is still perfectly coifed? Because that just doesn’t happen in real life.

Well, when you have a gold and silver woven into your hair, I’m sure it falls back in the place much more easily. :wink: