Amazon, Walmart, Target strike

You can fuck off with the terms related to some of the bloodiest dictatorships in history.

This is the first time I’m hearing “scab” with a negative connotation. I wasn’t aware people actually thought other people shouldn’t take available jobs. And it’s definitely the first time I’ve heard it said that customers ought to care about the management-labor relationship. That’s definitely a baffling assertion. I can’t fathom how it’s any of my business or any of my concern as a customer how well compensated the employees are. It seems to me you’re implying I’m supposed to side with the striking employees because…because…because they’re striking and that’s supposed to be a good thing? Because they say they deserve better pay so therefore they must?

It’s like saying I need to support the home team in the championship game of a sport I don’t watch between two teams I’ve never heard of.

Really? If you’re not just being disingenuous, I gotta color myself more than a little shocked. I thought everyone knew( generally )what a “scab” was and why it was considered negative. Even the people who thoroughly disagree with the concept.

But then I have no idea how old you are or how/where you were brought up. Anyone of my generation( Gen X )who lived in the Rust Belt and wasn’t from a fairly upper-class background should have been exposed to the idea.

How far do you take that lack of understanding? If you found out that your seafood supplier was selling fish caught by slaves, would you be baffled at customers who stopped buying that fish?

Is that like a “civil war?”

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I’m one of those who holds these views you find so new, baffling, and unfathomable, but I find myself compelled to not apply them to you.

Really? I remember my parents wouldn’t cross pick lines to patronize businesses with strikers back in the early 1970’s

Sure, why would you care whether or not other human beings are treated humanely? :rolleyes:

Good to see workers with a little spine, even in a modest action like this.

A little? The statistics say otherwise.

I won’t shop at Amazon (or Whole Foods), period, and this is from long before the strike. Not just because of worker rights, but also how they trap and then bleed all the thousands of smaller businesses that now have to be their subsidiaries.

Buying direct from those small online businesses will support the strikers and those businesses at the same time.

If you welcome your lizard overlords, go ahead and shop at Amazon.

I already had a negative view of Whole Foods, and it just got worse when it became part of Amazon.

Amazon is all of the things people used to say about Wal-Mart.

I read the article in question.

“Union-busting” is a pejorative term whose meaning is diminished when it’s applied to any company action intended to discourage workers from forming/joining a union, including memos and briefings by management.

I do hope the NLRB is investigating the “playful” quinoa-tossing by the fired employee. :rolleyes:

Mandatory meetings with employees in which anti-union propaganda is distributed is classic union-busting. You claim that the meaning is diminished by including some of the most popular anti-union tactics is, to say the least, suspect.

Had the quinoa-tosser been fired after tossing quinoa, it wouldn’t be newsworthy. He was fired after trying to organize workers.

Scab has never been a positive thing. Ignoring any feelings about any particular picket line, if you take a job at a place with workers on strike, you take away their bargaining ability.
If I treat my workers like garbage and pay them nothing so they strike, they’re counting on me not being able to fire them. If I can bring in scabs, I have no use for the people that don’t want to work.

It’s more like finding a way to help the opposing team win. Sure, you might not really care, but the people in your community might be annoyed with you if they find out you bought the away team lots of fancy training equipment.

Or maybe it’s a bad analogy because it isn’t a fucking game.

Eck-fucking-zactly.

Chessic Sense is a bit of a sociopath. He’s never shown the slightest inclination to give a fuck about his fellow human beings. So his bafflement isn’t remarkable here, any more than a blind person who says, “I can’t see the painting” is remarkable. If he sees folks’ health and safety as a sports thing, that’s a commentary on his deep failure, not on the situation.

To be fair, he needs his fellow human beings so that he can feel superior to someone. I’m betting Jamal still has a job.

It takes courage to do what they’re doing, which is to potentially give up a source of income that they probably need. It took courage to do what they were doing, which is serving the public in a time of a deadly pandemic.

I tip my hat to them and hope that that more people will just stop drinking the oligarch kool-aid.

And well you shouldn’t buy it - that’s nothing like what I wrote above.

Casey Jones Union Scab. It is on my Smithsonian Folkways disc.

I know there is a different non-union version, I believe I mentioned it in my original post. I commented that the union version has a murder within it. I can not condone murder or even physical violence towards someone who is simply trying to provide for their family. It is as upsetting to me as the asshats in a livejournal group I was a member of telling me that they hoped my husband would die on his military deployment simply because he was in the military.