Why are you bringing up a chopping block? I just said Juneteenth should remain.
That’s why it should be a holiday.
But we should have another holiday to celebrate the end of all legal slavery in the US.
We should have another holiday condemning the perpetrators of white supremacy. We should have a holiday celebrating the Civil Rights Movement. We should have another holiday commemorating the victims white supremacy. Get rid of the white-supremacist holidays and add these.
They get it. I think it’s extremely naive to believe otherwise.
Was the woman I quoted above being condescending?
Warning for D_Anconia, you’re not new, you know better than to attack the poster. There are two modnotes concerning this in the thread already.
I’ve been informed that what you did was not attack the poster, but we do seem to agree your post is the definition of a threadshit.
"Threadshitting – Do not threadshit. Threadshitting is belittling the topic or the people discussing it. It typically takes the form of a dismissive comment, like “Who cares?” or “This is stupid!” or similar. The implication of the threadshitter is that discussion of such a topic is beneath them, and should be beneath everybody else. If you really do think that a discussion is inane or pointless, the appropriate thing to do is to not participate in it. And, of course, if you see someone threadshitting, please do not respond with personal insults or accusations: instead, REPORT the post to a Moderator."
On review also suspended for 1 day pending Mod review as 6th warning in the last 3 years for this.
Suspension ended as of now.
Well good. As it is not really a milestone does a white opinion count for more then?
It is my intention to say that June 19, 1865 has little importance except to descendants of slaves in Texas. That is the whole point of my comments. My criticism has no bearing on anyones race or creed. I object to the false history, either said directly or by implication, that slavery in the United States ended on June 19, 1865. Do you disagree that such an implication is false and anti-historical?
I’m gonna assume you just missed thin @UltraVires?
I respectfully ignored it because it was an unfair debate tactic. Just because the Lost Cause is a false narrative does not mean that it is okay just to smear the south for things that they didn’t do. Delaware and Kentucky had legal slavery until December 18, 1865. To say that slavery ended once the final Confederate Army surrendered on June 19, 1865 is just as false as anything those old Southern rednecks say.
Umm, isn’t saying that the anti-Lost Cause narrative says that slavery ended once the final Confederate Army surrendered also a smear?
Maybe it’s because I’m on my second beer, but I’ve read your response three times and I’m not seeing the gotcha. Who am I smearing?
This is clearly not true. Many people find Juneteenth very important even if they are not descendants of slaves from Texas or slaves at all.
The anti-Lost Causers that don’t think that slavery ended once the final Confederate Army surrendered . . . which I’d bet is the overwhelming majority of them.
I disagree. I have no cite. However I doubt even a significant minority of black people celebrate it. It is a holiday created by liberal white people to make themselves feel good.
Most people are ignorant about history, people in this thread excepted. By establishing this holiday, these people will then take that limited knowledge to believe the false narrative that slavery was finally ended on June 19. That is my only objection to the holiday. I have no objection to a holiday celebrating the end of slavery. Just don’t pick a date that pretends to be one that has a false significance.
Shall we take that as a withdrawal of the argument counselor?
Third beer popped. I’m still not sure what I am arguing against. 
I don’t mean to be a smartass. I’m just arguing that by establishing June 19 as a holiday and having many articles proclaim that it was the day that slavery ended is false.
I’ll make it simple. What the problem with people being anti-Lost Causers?
Nothing. Refute the Lost Cause narrative all you want. But don’t say false things as you refute it. Deny that Robert E. Lee was a great patriot. Fine. Don’t say that he ate children.
Sixty-nine percent of Black adults said that they supported the day becoming a federal holiday, according to a survey.
And we know former slaves created the holiday to celebrate their freedom (long before there were any modern white liberals).