American foodstuffs - a few questions

Gatorade - I have no idea what this is, can somebody fill me in? - any of you who have visited the UK, can you tell me if there’s an equivalent product over here?

Twinkies - I’ve seen them in films, are they nice? - are they as popular as we’re ledto believe?

Oreos - These are available over here now, I’ve tried them, the biscuit is nice, but I found the filling a little too sweet.

American Milk chocolate(especially Hershey’s) - I find it tastes a bit too sweet and oily to me, what’s your take on English chocolate? how about European chocolate?

For those of you that have been over here, is there any food (not limited to confectionery) that you found conspicuously absent from the UK, with no equivalent.

I meant to ask what you think of them, do you have anything that you think is better?

Gatorade is the original sports drink. The theory is that it provides salts and electrolytes (same thing, really) that your body loses during exercise, thus being more effective that simple water in keeping you hydrated. Legend has it (and it may be true) that it was developed by a professor at U. of Florida (hence “Gator”), who analyzed the contents of sweat, then reproduced it, adding a mess of sugar to make it palatable.

I dunno how popular; I grew up in Philadelphia, where TastyKakes cornered the market. I had my first Twinkie when I was 19 and found it hideous.

It’s the cookie, you damn furriner, not the “biscuit”. :stuck_out_tongue: If you find the filling too sweet, then you will never understand the zen of Oreos - the cookie is merely an excuse for the filling.

I was with you until this, but you have reaffirmed that we did the right thing by rebelling. :smiley: Chocolate milk is nature’s perfect food (and a damn fine hangover cure, too, if your tummy’s upset) I’m not a huge fan of pre-made chocolate milk - true chocolate milk must be made from scratch.
I am with you on European chocolates, at least. They is yummy. The only English chocolate I’ve had are some Cadbury bars in England, and they were better than American bars, as well.
Now, if you’d only get over your obsession with black currants. They are nothing special.

Sua

there is no finer milk chocolate in the world than english milk chocolate. if you ever see me with a cadbury flake, or, even better, a cadbury boost (a twix bar on steroids), well, just keep your hands and feet away from my mouth. hell, all cadbury bars are better than any american candy bar, even snickers.

as to twinkies and oreos, my advice is to stick to mcvities, they are way way better. chocolate covered hob nobs, mmmmmmmm.

especially twinkies, theyre just nasty. but yes, they are extremely popular.

Just thought I’d add that Gatorade has a website at http://www.gatorade.com (surprise surprise) that has FAQ that goes into more detail about the actual Gatorade ingredients.

Twinkies seem to be a taste one developes as a small child. They are very sweet, to say the least. I never had one until I was an adult, and I think they’re vile. When people learn that I never ate Twinkies as a child, they usually assume my parents raised me in a small box in the basement, so yes, I’d say generally they are firmly entrenched in American popular culture.

Oreos … good grief, the filling is the best part, although the cookie is nothing to sneeze at either. American kids often eat them by prying apart the cookies, licking the creme off, and then feeding the cookies to the dog. Did you dip them in milk? This is also an enjoyable way to consume them. You can also crumble them over ice cream.

Chocolate milk … it took some getting used to when I was in England, it didn’t taste sweet or thick enough to me (which seems in line with your opinion of American chocolate milk). But, after a while, I liked it a lot, although not better than American. More like two good versions of a great thing.

The hotel where I stayed in London put a good-sized hospitality basket in my room each day, filled with chocolates and carmel and toffee candy bars. I promptly ate the entire basket every day, usually for breakfast. Delish. For some reason, most American toffee is a tooth-breaking experience.

And the French Fry vending machines? This is a brilliant idea. I can’t imagine why it hasn’t caught on here.

I got yer chocolate covered hob nobs RIGHT HERE, sweetcheeks.

Twinkies…in my very humble opinion, are sugar high heaven. If you absolutely need a quick, cheap sugar fix that makes your fingers sticky and your tummy happy…a Twinkie is where it’s at.

Although oreos aren’t anything to kick out of bed.

When I was in England I ate Curly Wurlies. They were very good…send me some.

right now.

jarbaby

Just to add - you can get Gatorade in England. I’ve bought it at Hearts Grocers on Tottenham Court Road in London (although I’ve seen it for sale elsewhere in London). The flavour I had tasted like the still Lucozade Sport you can buy. Your basic sports drink.

I’ve always wanted to try a Twinkie, ever since I first saw Ghostbusters and they talked about them. Heh.

I’d like to know: what, exactly, are Hershey’s Kisses?

But i’ve tried some other Hershey’s stuff. Give me Cadbury’s any day.

Fran

I seem to have caused a terminology misunderstanding here; by Milk chocolate, I mean chocolate that isn’t dark (plain) chocolate.

I like milk chocolate, but my preference is plain chocolate of the 70% cocoa solids variety, bitter and aromatic, this may explain why I prefer the biscuit part of Oreos to the filling.

And it’s when you sell them over here, they become biscuits :smiley: (I’m pretty sure that the same thing would happen in reverse)

Blackcurrants, sure, not to everyone’s taste, but I think they’re great, to the extent that I’ve developed a taste for eating them raw, gooseberries too.

No comment, other than I find the stuff vile, and ditto for all other sports drinks. But that’s my opinion, and certainly not shared by several million of my fellow citizens. When I work out I prefer just plain water.

A Twinkie™ is basically yellow sponge cake with a sweet, cream filling. It is very, very sweet and has a legendary shelf life. If you find other American sweets (like our chocolate and cookies - excuse me, “biscuits”) too sweet you’ll probably find Twinkies too sweet as well.

There are variations, like devil’s food cake with a cream filling, and they come in several brands, just like Pepsi and Coca-Cola are the best known American soft drinks but there are hundreds of other flavors and variations.

Then stay away from the Twinkies. Actually, I’ve heard meany Europeans comment that American cookies and candies are much sweeter than they are accustomed to eating.

American is sweeter. And American dark chocolate candy bars are less sweet than European varieties, and also hot chocolate is sweeter here. Some Americans hate foreign chocolates because they perceive them as “bitter”, other Americans prefer European chocolates because the American varieties are “too sweet”. It’s all a matter of personal taste.

For the person with the question What is a Hershey kiss? - it’s a dab of Hershey milk chocolate in a foil wrapper. Variants include a dab of chocolate around a peanut, and a “Hershey hug”, which I understand to be a dab of Hershey white chocolate in a foil wrapper.

Actually, the process that Hershey developed for making milk chocolate causes the milk to sour a bit, according to the book reviewed here. Strange that the OP calls it oily, since British chocolate often has vegetable oil added; IIRC, the EU hesitated to call the UK stuff “chocolate” for this very reason.

Re Oreos, Cecil wannabe William Poundstone reveals the recipe in one of his “Big Secrets” books; IIRC, the filling is just shortening & sugar. Just to show how weird we Yanks are, there’s a new Oreo variant that, when dunked in milk, turns the cow juice colors not found in nature. Bet it’ll do the same thing to the pee of anyone sick enough to eat such a disgusting thing :wink:

jarbabyj, thats the nicest thing anyones said to me all week. yikes!

i can get a curly wurly right down the street, at ratto’s. they have all the good cadbury stuff. its a candy junkies heaven, or hell, or both.

Actually, it’s white and milk chocolate (in “stripes”) in a foil wrapper.

Milk chocolate – bleh. 70%-cocoa-solids dark chocolate (especially the kind with little chips of cocoa bean in it) – mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Love that slightly alocoholic–tasting “finish” on a really strong chocolate.

and a bar of milkybar ( we are talking the propper big bars )
slap them back to back and tuck in.

do not follow this up with an entire packet of clubs adn half a bottle of doctor pepper, i literally went off chocolate for about 3 days. like you do after drinking( like u go off wine if u get wasted on it the night before )

[sub] but it felt so good at the time [/sub]
i really wanna try a twinkie, just because, adn plain chocolate certainly tastes better than milk chocolate.

has anyone else in teh UK ( or anywehre else ) noticed that since dairy-milk started coming in plastic/foil packaging it has developed a ‘synthetic strawberry’ flavour?

it is really annoying me.

actually, i only really noticed it when they were just released, so i think maybe i am now accustomed to the new flavor.
how will i ever know?

anyone not tried it from the new packaging?

if you have, would you PLEASE carry out some controlled experiments and tell me if i am going insane
[sup] i aint, am i? [/sup]

Gatorade - Yup, it’s your basic sports drink, intended to replace electrolytes lost during long periods of exercise. I have no idea why any sane person would want to drink it otherwise.

Twinkies - This is one of the nastiest excuses for a cake I’ve seen. As I remember from my one experience of them, it was a yucky sponge cake-like exterior wrapped around a dreadful shortening based “cream” filling. Bleah! I’ve always wondered about why these have been around so long and remained popular. Haven’t those poor people who eat them ever been exposed to GOOD junk food?

Oreos - An all-time classic cookie. Not my absolute favorite, but a very good stand-by. People tend to be varied on how they like to eat them. I’m of the take-a- bite-of-the-whole-thing-at-once school. (Not the whole cookie at once, but eat the cookie and filling together, in the original proportions.) There are quite a few who obsessively twist them apart, and scrape the white filling off and eat that part first (or put it aside and save it for last) because they consider it the “best part.” I’m with you on this — I could do without the filling (or perhaps only half as much of it.) However, I think we are in the minority. They actually make a special variety of these called “Double-Stuffs”, with twice as much of the white creamy filling.

American Milk chocolate- I like Hershey’s, but definitely Cadbury’s is far superior. It just has such a smooth flavor and mouth-feel. Absolutely wonderful. As far as candy bars go, I loved Penguins and Clubs, and those huge chocolate bars with liquor fillings in them (especially the Irish Coffee) — Yum!

I spent about a month living in a residence hall at Oxford (St. Benet’s)and a long weeked with some family friends in Stafford in 1983. Based upon that experience, here are some of the differences I noticed. I’m generalizing from these two sources of food; they may have been unique to those cooks instead, and certainly may have changed over time:

  1. Man, you guys are serious about your potatoes! We had potatoes at every meal at St. Benet’s — sometimes two types.

  2. Blackcurrants are wonderful. I loved anything with them. Gooseberries ---- were quite an experience. We always had wonderful desserts at St. Benet’s, so that even if something looked new to us, we had gotten to the point where we trusted the cook (Jane). One night, we were served chocolate ice cream, with this stuff that looked like mutant grapes on top of it. Holy cow! What a bizarre experience, to have something as rich and sweet as that wonderful chocolate ice cream covered in that evil, bitter fruit. (I never got a chance to try them separately. Perhaps on their own, expecting the bitter flavor, they could be quite interesting. But topping a bowl of chocolate ice cream? Jane must’ve been laughing her head off, watching us.)

  3. In general, when eating out, I found it harder to find much in the way of veggies (other than potatoes) served than I do here at home. I wasn’t the healthiest of eaters then, but even I got veggie hungry after a while. It seemed like you had to go for Chinese or Indian food to find them. (Incidentally, I was amazed at the number of Chinese and Indian restaurants, too. In the early 80’s, I think there might have been one Indian restaurant in each of the 2 major cities of my state. It has increased dramatically now, but I could still count all the Indian restaurants in my city on one hand.)

  4. You guys know your way around sweets. Besides the wonderful chocolates, I loved the toffees and biscuits. (McVitie’s Abbey Crunch Creams, Hobnobs, and Digestive biscuits were some favorites. I can find Hobnobs and the Digestive biscuits here now, as well as some of the chocolates at a gourmet store nearby. They bring back lovely memories.)

  5. Americans like drinks served cold, with ice in them (particularly in the South, where I’m from.) I found myself lusting after ice in my drinks over there. You could tell the places that were used to catering to the American crowds, because they were the few places you could find it. We thought it was hilarious when we asked for ice in our drinks, though, and our waiter would carefully bring out ONE CUBE. (Over here, restauranteurs realize that ice is cheap, drinks are expensive. They always fill your glass with ice first, then the drink.)

Some things I think you may not have, or at least not commonly available.:

Peanut butter? Actually, our friends in Stafford did find some in a “gourmet” store there, tried it, and hated it. This is the absolute staple of the American children’s diet. If children will eat nothing else, they will eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. (That’s what made it so laughable that our friends paid an arm and a leg for it at a gourmet shop. This is the cheap protein source here.) And is it true that Marmite is a staple for your kids? I found that stuff absolutely vile, and could not imagine a kid eating it.

Do you have corn on the cob (maize on the cob?) I seem to remember our friends in Stafford saying that they saw it in movies all the time, but had not had it.

And now, perhaps you can solve a mystery. In 1986, I went to Scotland for about 10 days with my University’s pipe band for several competitions. On our next-to-last day there, in Ayrshire, I think, one of my fellow drummers saw a banana milkshake on the menu and ordered one. What he was expecting was an semi-frozen drink, with real banana, milk, and maybe ice cream — something like a drinkable ice cream. What he got was some nasty concoction which appeared to be just milk with a flavoring added that made it a sort of nuclear yellow color, and tasted absolutely foul. Was this milkshake just representative of our particular lunch spot? Are your milkshakes frozen, or just flavored milk?

Man, I’ve got to get back to England sometime…

With one exception…

When I was in high school, my Mom went on her first visit to England.

I was a huge fan of C.S. Lewis’ The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (and other Narnia books), so I was dying to see what Turkish Delight was like. I thought it must be some really incredibly good stuff. For some reason, I had a mental image of it being like a really good toffee. I made Mom promise to bring me some back.

That stuff was awful! I could believe that Edmund sold his soul over a piece of that junk.

Black beans. I have never seen black beans in either the UK or Ireland, apart from in one Mexican restaurant here - and they don’t sell them retail.

YWalker, it’s quite easy to find peanut butter in supermarkets over here. It does taste different than in the US, but some brands are nice.

You know, if you guys wanted to PayPal me the appropriate amount of money, I would be willing to buy peanut butter, oreos, twinkies, nesquick chocolate (strawberry/vanilla/banana) milk mix, gatorade, or whatever else your heart desires (and customs allows) and ship it to you. If you want “Murrk’n” styled soda, I’d suggest a Jones Soda sampler. Maybe home grown corn-on-the-cob (or really any other vegetable, we have about an acre of vegetable garden on our property) in a vacuum sealed pack would even last long enough to still be good after international shipping.

Heck, you haven’t lived until you’ve had homemade vanilla-bean ice cream over homemade blackberry cobbler with chocolate milk to wash it down. That’s orgasm country, boys.

–Tim

Strange that you were served gooseberries with chocolate ice cream; that doesn’t sound all that nice a combination to me - I think the best way to eat them is either in a fruit tart with thick custard (or quality vanilla ice cream), or to eat them raw when they are fully ripe and dark red in colour.
They aren’t actually all that different from Blackcurrants, to which they are closely related. I believe there’s something similar that is native to the US called a ‘buffalo currant’

This I find stange

**Try Fox’s Sunbreaks if you can find them; they are crisp light golden biscuits (cookiies :D) with a buttery vanilla flavour

There have been whole threads about this one; It’s just a culture (and possibly climate) difference I think.

**It’s widely available in smooth, crunchy or wholenut varieties, I have half a jar in the cupboard, I suppose I get through about six jars a year maybe.

**You probably spread it too thickly, but as the adverts say, it’s something that you either love or hate. I was raised on the stuff myself, that and blackcurrant jam(jelly :D)

**It’s always been available, but not always been common, these days it’s everywhere (it’s widely grown around my part of the country and in the peak of the season I can buy 10 cobs for £1 (about US75c) at the roadside) - I like it best grilled on a charcoal barbecue. (I always burn the roof of my mouth when I eat it, because I’m not patient enough to let it cool to a safe temperature)

**Yes, the standard English milkshake is traditionally nothing more than whisked flavoured milk; ‘thick’ milkshaes are available though (mostly at the ubiquitous McD’s) - I like both - an English milkshake is a drink, an American shake is a dessert - to me they both have their merits.

I miss A1 Steak Sauce. We have a few sauces which are very similar, but not quite the same. I have seen it on sale here in Manchester at Jerry’s Home Store (I think that’s the name), but at £7-50 (ca. $10) for a small bottle (4 or 6 oz maybe), it’s a little on the expensive side.

The comments about peanut butter are odd. Although I’ve never eaten it myself, family and friends have been eating it for years (at least 25) and it was never considered expensive.

American guy here, from Philadelphia.

Here are some great products found in the U.S., and I wonder if they are international:

Cheese Wiz
Cream Cheese
Barbeque potato chips
Birch Beer