I hate you too.
While I don’t have a high amount of respect for manufactured groups and talent, I don’t really have a problem with the show either. It’s there purely for entertainment. If you don’t like the show don’t watch it. No one is forcing you to pay any attention whatsoever to the show.
Music has ceased being just “art” long ago. It’s unfortuneate, but it’s true. “American Idol” was not the catalyst for this.
The difference between American Idol and the existing popular music is that on AI, more emphasis is put on singing talent rather than image…at first. I’m not saying it stays that way. The judges are always saying things like, “You have a great voice, but I don’t know what we’ll do with you.” Hey, how about just cutting an album? Fuck the marketing!
Look at Britney Spears. She’s all image and no talent. Same with Jennifer Lopez (I refuse to call her J Lo). Where’s the talent? It’s all packaging.
And if you think this nu-metal shit is any better, think again. It all sounds the same because there’s a fucking formula they all follow. They are mass-produced pieces of shit. Now we have the punk-pop garbage doing the same thing to music that has been going on for years now–marketing itself to teens in a way that makes them think they’re cool and edgy for listening to it. But they are all sheep who have fallen for the marketing.
Alternative is no longer alternative, it’s the mainstream disguising itself as alternative.
If you want to listen to “art”, turn off your radio and go to your local mom and pop record store.
And, dude–there are plenty of decaffinated brands on the market that taste just like the real thing.
When I was in 6th grade, my english teacher made us write our misspelled words from our spelling tests 5 times each.
unfortunate
unfortunate
unfortunate
unfortunate
unfortunate
It’s all just a little bit of history repeating.
I’ve never watched more than a snippet of AI, but once I did make the mistake of watching an entire American Juniors (it was wedged between the Simpsons and Keen Eddie, what can I say?)
What turned me off was that I , personally, have heard better child singers than these. Not technical ability, mind you: these performers were some of the best technical child singers I’ve heard. They just have a complete lack of any soul. I know that’s true for most child performers, but these are utterly plastic.
I would assume much the same is true for AI, (without the technical excellence part, even the finalists didnt seem all that great.)
Of course, we aren’t looking for substance, these days. But if we aren’t allowed to show our vulnerable side, we’ll never find the next incarnation of Ian McCulloch.
And it’s only a short trip from there to paranoidland, where the execs are actually trying to prevent the music I like from being made…wait, I think I’m onto something here. They ARE. They want us to have a limited selection of music, in the “you can have any color car as long as it’s black” or “democrats versus republicans” vein. If we affirm their choices at all, the music-industrial complexers keep their jobs. And, and here’s the clincher, its EASIER to perform ones job if you FORCEFEED only limited number of bands.
So, essentially, the Execs-“researchers”-DJs are limiting the market out of laziness.
mmmmmm,$1 songs from apple…mmmmm
I too am your nemesis, dnooman, for I love love love me some AI. And what is this about Kelly Clarkson not “making it” on the outside? She seems to be doing pretty well to me (except for that horrific movie with Justin. The pain of contracts). I’m super glad none of the cheesy spin-offs (Fame, Nashville Star) have been sucessful (or not anywhere near as sucessful as AI) because if it’s one thing I can’t stand it’s 20 spinoffs on one successful show. I don’t know why it bugs me so much, it just does.
Except for Joe Millionaire of course. That was one spinoff that kicked some serious ass. I think it was because the editors were so freakin’ hysterical. Paul, everyones favorite butler, made it unique as well.

Oh, I disagree about Nashville Star. As much as I liked AI, Nashville Star was even better. I don’t like country music very much, but the singers on Nashville Star were infinitely more talented than the AI kids. Also, there was no age limit on NS, so there was a wide range of ages. There seemed to be more variety.
But, Fame is the worst “reality show” to ever hit the airwaves. [insert puke smilie here]
I hate AI for only one reason. I’ve been the only Reuven I’ve ever met or known. I’ve never even been acquainted with another Ruben. Therefore, when someone says anything that sounds like Reuven, I respond. Now, because of AI, everyone is saying “Ruben”, and I think everyone is talking about or to me. I’ve become paranoid because of this show. Everyone’s talking about me behind my back! Aiiieee!
Amen, my friend. Amen. I also enjoy giggling at the Television Without Pity recaps afterwards. I usually ignore the attempts at music, unless it’s really bad. Then I giggle to myself and make snarky comments for the benefit of anyone watching the show with me. Good times!
The problem I have with this kind of programs is that the singers look a lot like a trained monkey to me; "OK, you go in there, move your hip like this, turn your head down in this part of the song, as if you actually know the feeling of it… "
Puke
I´ve only seen the comercials and a snippet now and then; but it´s eyesore.
Nutty Bunny (I dunno any HTML switches, sorry), Amen. I agree with you fully on all counts. Had I been on caffeine, I wouldn’t have been able to sit still at the comp, I was in a very spitefull mood as a result of brew swilling. Dig the Real Genius quote, I should leave articulate posting to people of your caliber. I seem to complain alot when I post.
Okay to everyone saying Ryan Seacrest is a hottie: what the ever loving fuck are y’all seeing? He’s anorexic, orange, wears hideous clothes and has hair that makes him look like a Don King wannabee! Not to mention the fact that he is annoying to the nth degree. Ah well, to each his own. 
And tanaqui, I’m so with you on the TwoP recaps. That’s the main reason I continue to watch. Shack is hysterical!
Your thread title is redundant.
Yeah, but I fucked it up. It should have been “are just as tasty as the real thing”. :smack:
Pish posh. The real stars know Stompin’ Tom Connors’ “The Hockey Song”.
“Hello out there, we’re on the air, it’s hockey night tonight…”