American shows on Junkyard Wars - uggh

Did anyone else see this last night on TLC? They started showin the “American” season of Junkyard Wars, and they are not making me happy yet! Those 2 challenges were good - the first time, when they were on the UK version. Does TLC actually think the people watching this new season DIDN’T watch the UK ones? And the one air-power design for the pumpkin one was exactly the same as one of the designs for the rugby throwing challenge from the UK.

I did get used to the new host, and at least they kept Cathy around, but if they don’t get original with the challenges soon, I might contemplate not watching! :slight_smile:

Unfortunately, I didn’t watch any of the UK ones. Last night’s pumpkin challenge was the first one I managed to catch. Too bad, I think Robert Llwellyn would be fun to see in that.

I was surprised the air cannon was completed in the allotted time. I don’t really think that you can blame them for coming up with the same solution to a similar challenge, though.

My main complaint is that they only were allowed three test shots and three tries to get points. Those sorts of devices just can’t be callibrated for accuracy in that short of a time. It would have been a much better test of the device if they’d been allowed ten or fifteen attempts. The one hit the blue team got was pure luck.

Actually, I’ve only managed to catch one of the UK version so far (the harvester one). I saw the two yesterday and enjoyed them a great deal.

The thing that impressed me most was that the creations worked (and the trebuchet design was just brilliant). At least in the harvester match, the final results were lackluster at best.

The UK version had them going solely for distance, which was quite a bit easier. I was kind of surprised that neither team tried a design made to maximize points rather than distance – for instance, by shooting at a low angle and rolling the pumpking into the wall.

I found the American host extremely annoying. He was kinda like a Jim Carrey wannabe. I hope they scrap him (no pun intended) and get Robert Llwellyn back. Also, some original challenges would be nice.

Yeah, I gotta say that the new host got on my nerves pretty quick. Using every cliche in the book and being very annoying didn’t help his case any either.
I think, though, that part of the reason some of the designs were similar was because the experts know that certain things work well.
I don’t know if I like the testing or not, yet. Right now I prefered when they just went into it cold, not knowing how well, or if, the inventions would work. Like the aqua-car (sorry, can’t remember the name right now) challenge. Then they also get to show more of them building and finding, and I think there’s a little more tension. Though in the dragster one, there was plenty of tension right to the end.

I’m a huge fan of the show, and have spent a lot of time browsing through the various discussion groups and websites established by contestants and such, so let me offer a couple of bits of clarifying information.

One of the misconceptions about the American host is that this version of the show is being produced by TLC. In fact, it’s the same production company (RDF Media), same producers (the female co-host, Cathy Rogers, is a producer and co-creator), same junkyard in England. For this American-aimed season, the English producers changed the editing style slightly, aiming it at a slightly different audience. They now finish the competition before the last commercial break, for example, and then have a separate wrapup between the last break and the credits. They’re also more up-front about how much testing and fine-tuning is allowed on the morning of the competition, which they’ve always done but minimized somewhat in previous seasons.

They also swapped out the original host, Robert Llewellyn (Kryten from Red Dwarf), for the American guy, because they figured he’d be easier for Americans (and Canadians) to identify with. If you read the message boards on the production company’s official site, it seems like this might have been a mistake, but they’ll decide based on Nielsens, not the comments of a few hundred dedicated Internet users. Besides, Llewellyn is still the host for the British version.

As far as the new host, I strongly prefer Llewellyn; he was just such a mischevous gremlin. The new guy seems to think he’s on Nickelodeon or something. Still, I’m willing to give him a chance, to see if he calms down or starts clicking better with Cathy. The first season of Scrapheap Challenge may or may not ever see U.S. airing, because it was so different (especially the pilot), and it took them a while to iron out the wrinkles. The new guy may just need a similar shakedown period.

More FYI: They lost the use of the original junkyard after they finished shooting the season they’re now airing. It was bought by a company that’s not as friendly to the show as the previous owner. Because of this, the British and American versions of the show will probably both be shot in the United States.

Common question about the show: “Do they ‘plant’ stuff in the junkyard?” Yes, of course. Read the FAQ at the website for The N.E.R.D.S., the American team that competed in Season Three. It’s not just that some items (such as the engines and boilers for the Steam Cars episode) would be too difficult to build from scratch – they’d also be illegal under rules set by the British equivalent of OSHA, and the show would be shut down. The producers do make sure it isn’t just a scavenger hunt for bits of a jigsaw puzzle; for example, in one episode, they provided a highly unlikely pair of oversized wheels, but then made sure the junkyard didn’t have a matching differential or bearings, so if you wanted to use the wheels, you had to bodge something together. (I use the word “bodge” every chance I get now. Bodge bodge bodge. :D)

You can make suggestions for future challenges by posting them on the production company’s discussion site (see link above, then click through to their message board). Ideas should follow a few guidelines:
[ul][li]It has to be an engineering challenge, demonstrating some mechanical or scientific principle, rather than just “robots bashing on each other.” The point of the show is to painlessly teach basic physics and such, so the challenge has to keep that in mind.[/li][li]It has to be interesting television. For example, it might be fun to build a really big pressure cooker, but the competition at the end would be kind of boring to watch, as the two teams just sit around and wait for their chambers to heat up and pressurize. (Actually, making a pressure cooker to launch projectiles might be fun. Hmmm…)[/li][li]It has to lend itself to competing approaches. You’ll note that on every show, the two teams follow divergent strategies. The fireboats, for example, were similar, but the pumps worked on different principles (piston vs. centrifugal pumps). Even the beach sailer episode had “one mast” vs. “two mast.” This increases both the drama and the show’s teaching potential.[/ul][/li]I put a few challenge ideas up on their board, and got a couple of nice, complimentary responses from production company reps. Another cool thing about those boards is that the real-life contestants frequent them, and will respond to direct questions about their experiences on the show. Go check it out.

And finally, if you want to get on the show (can you imagine a “Straight Dope” team?), they’re taking applications until mid-February. Check out the link above.

I have to agree with you guys on LLewellyn compared to the American guy…this new guy is annoying as hell. He must have made a stupid pumpkin joke everytime they showed his mug, and I know that stuff is probably scripted, but he just can’t pull it off with out being cheesey. I also felt like they padded the show much more, repeating things a bit much to fill up time, but maybe that’s just a bad impression left by the new editiing style.

I have a question about Junkyard Wars. In every episode, they rip these monster engines out of cars and put them in their creations. They never take the radiators. How come these engines don’t melt into redhot scrap during the competitions?

I’m psyched – next week is hovercrafts!

Hmmm, got a closer look at the engine on the displacement hull and they did take the radiator. Wasted effort – the engine was water cooled :slight_smile: