Whether that means anything or not will be seen in the coming election. It could be the only reason the Democrats have a chance in 2014 to hold the Senate. And the only reason the Democrats don’t still control the HOuse is because they LOST it through their actions.
He won big in the electoral college, which rightly or wrongly what matters in America. If you want to talk about the popular vote instead, then you need to address a political party who thinks that having a vote total lower than your opponent means a “mandate”.
That’s kind of incoherent. Are you asking because you want to know the answer, or do you not want to continue this back and forth?
Who said he’s “doing just fine”?
I’m well aware that my opinion is not the majority opinion in the US. Neither is yours or adaher’s.
Compared to Congress and other politicians in office, it’s quite different.
Not exactly. I’m just saying that he’s about met my expectations. My hopes were certainly higher, but I recognized that my hopes that most Republicans would try to compromise and not try to torpedo things like health care and immigration reform were not very realistic.
And his promises to reform the way government works, I guess you just accepted that as stuff he needed to say to get elected?
There’s tons of stuff he said to get elected. And according to Politifact, he’s done a surprising job of keeping (or compromising on) most of his promises.
2 kept for every 1 broken? Wow, how impressive.
More like 3 to 1, including compromises and those in the works. And yes, in this environment, this is pretty impressive.
Without getting into Obama’s performance - I don’t think you need to be a rabid lefty to agree that commercial is embarrassing. It’s akin to making a commercial for “men” with some guy comparing the President to a fantasy football pick that doesn’t pan out (so that means you gotta cut’im from the team, am I right, buddeh?)
Both. I asked a question that I was curious about. I also don’t think that discussing this further would be productive. So, I thought I’d ask you what I was curious about and give you the last word on the larger discussion as well. I think you’re taking this the wrong way. I was trying to be polite, conciliatory, not snarky.
Okay. To answer the question, Obama would be “shunned” by Democrats in any state or locality in which it was politically beneficial to shun him, regardless of his national approval. This is true now as well. In places in which he’s very unpopular, Democratic candidates distance themselves from him. In places in which his popularity is okay or better, Democratic candidates do not, and often embrace him. This is true now, and it was true in '08 and '12.
Yes, darn them to heck for collecting more votes for congressional seats but getting fewer seats because of gerrymandering.
Not the case in 2010. They lost by a bigger margin than Obama won in 2010. Quite the turnaround. But I suppose such swings “just happen”.
Factually wrong. Obama’s margin in 2008 was larger than the Republican House margin in 2010.
Stop saying things without a cite. Everything you say without a cite is suspect, and much of what you say with a cite is suspect.
Please please please stop making assertions about facts without cites. You’re just terrible – utterly, miserably, terrible – at not being factually wrong.
Only the weak-minded depend on facts for their political views, the creative mind soars on the winds of conjecture and imagination, leaving such dullards as you gaping and slack-jawed in stunned admiration.
More accurate to say the Republicans didn’t have the decency to stay in the wilderness where they belong.
Which is no big surprise. If they had any decency at all, they’d hardly be willing to be Republicans.
It wasn’t exactly the wilderness. They went away for a nice three-day weekend at an exclusive spa, decided everything was fine and they should keep doing more of the same.
Not exactly. The Tea Party changed the GOP, and I doubt that without their energy they would have been able to make their comeback in 2010.
IIandyii, sorry about that. You’re right, Obama won by 7.2% in 2008, Republicans won the House vote by 6.8% in 2010.
Since I was wrong, I’ll make one of my famous predictions right here: In 2014, the Republicans will exceed Obama’s victory margin over Romney, in both the House and Senate elections. I also predict that Democrats will think this had nothing whatsoever to do with Democrats’ governing.
More of the same.