Sounds like frat hazing to me.
-Joe, trying to get a republican radio show off the ground
So, you’re saying that hazing practices are acceptable?
Check your sarcasometer, dude.
And, anyways, I actually do think hazing practices are tolerable, simply because the people being hazed have a choice about whether or not they join the club/group/frat/whatever where they get hazed on the way in.
The people (sorry, “enemy combatants”) aren’t there by choice. And fun stuff like gonad electrocution doesn’t count as “hazing”.
-Joe, A-hazing Grace
Would you really consider these things as ‘hazing’ if they were happening to YOU, or to your friends and relatives?
Just exactly what would someone have to do to you or a member of your family before you would consider it torture?
Where would you draw the line between ‘hazing’ and torture?
Did you catch his post, about four hours before yours, in which he said that he was being sarcastic?
Thank you for clarifying.
The problem is, I’ve heard that argument used seriously - “it was nothing but some hazing, same thing that happens in college” was used in a thread on THIS BOARD, which is supposedly some intellectual place. That is why I jumped at it.
For the record, as a fraternity member, no fraternity has sanctioned hazing, and most spend an ongoing struggle to stop it whenever possible. In fact, at least at Berkeley, the uni band was known for far worse hazing and far raunchier parties than the fraternities (not to play pass the buck or anything, just saying that it is the age group, not something about fraternities specifically).
I don’t see how anyone who watched the 20/20 that aired last night could leave thinking that the Bush Administration has done the right thing in Gitmo. I have to give ABC major props for shedding light on how bad the situation is down there.
It’s time for the fence-sitters to pluck the splinters out of their behinds and stop waiting for some grand epiphany.