Well, wouldn’t that mean, then, that “most Americans” would oppose any change to that system? Wouldn’t that therefore imply that someone who ran on a platform stressing such reform was doomed to fail? And yet, there he is…
Perhaps a few cites might be appropriate, right about now. About how “…most Americans LIKE their insurance…”.
You got, you bring? You got?
ETA: ooops, forgot about that “tolerate” trapdoor, for easy escape. Well, yes, people will be more likely to “tolerate” Option A if there is no Option B.
I’m not sure why you think that would make me sad.
No thank you. Can you arrange to have me made Swiss? English? French? Perhaps Dutch? I’d go for all of those.
The lack of intellectual curiosity you champion is not for me. Maybe if more Americans were less militantly ignorant they might point at us or Germany or the UK and say “Hey, why can’t we get some of that action?” Last I read, satisfaction among insured Americans was on par with satisfaction among Canadians. Factor in the uninsured among you and satisfaction goes down quite a bit.
My pointing out that many people concern themselves with the health care available in other countries doesn’t make your point anyway, it contradicts it.
Not necessarily. I suppose it depends on the form of the change and how confident they are that the change will be worthwhile. WRT the current Change™, it seems that public approval is dropping slowly from a high last summer.
You (probably deliberately) mistake what I’m saying. I’m not claiming our health care is perfect. Just that, by and large, the majority of people are content enough that change isn’t a priority for them.
How have people who have run on the slogan that they will institute complete UHC in America fared? Let me see…
In a Pit thread? No thanks. I’m not all that interested in beating my head against your brick wall at this point. Think what you like, and keep dreaming that someday all those little American workers and peasants (I’m SURE there are out there somewhere) will rise up and demand UHC. In the mean time, and in the real world, we’ll get Change™ that will probably be the worst of both worlds, and looks too me at this point to be a costly cluster fuck. Not that I’m opposed to cluster fucks, mind, but I like to be the fuck-er not the fuck-ee…
IMO, most people have a lack of interest in the rest of the world unless some aspect affects them in some more or less direct way. Most people are busy trying to make a living and get on with life. Or on a more personal level, I have more important things to worry about than the kind of health coverage Germans have.
I don’t think Americans are any more or less disinterested in any other people.
No, no whoosh. Your ego was bruised so you lashed out, taking pride in things that had nothing to do with you. I understand perfectly. Happens all the time.
You’ve got your timeline twisted. Early Carlin was into provocative, but ultimately (in his own words) goofy shit. It’s only in his later acts, around the time of Hicks’ death, that he really started tackling more serious issues with the same kind of rage and bitterness (at which point tossers accused him of having become an unfunny old man). Which, BTW, would not make Carlin a Hicks imitator either - they simplyrespected and inspired each other very much.
Now Denis Leary, he’s a cut-rate Bill Hicks imitator.
Tooth, your world view is distorted. I simply pointed out some simple facts that had been overlooked. How you got from there to ‘my ego got bruised’ is beyond me. And I really don’t want to know.
2 comments XT:
I’m a dual citizen, (US and Soviet Canuckistan) and I’ve had 3 different versions of healthcare: American Socialized, American Standard and Canadian Socialized.
Here’s how I found it. American Socialized heathcare, aka The Military, was awesome. You go in, they fix you up, no problemo, thanks Mr. Taxpayer. American Standard sucked - you go in, they talk at you for hours getting your numbers and plans while you bleed, and, in the case of an uninsured buddy of mine, while he lied about his numbers, and then, eventually, they pay for part of it. Canadian Socialized also rocks, and is nearly as good as the US military healthcare, the major difference being that the military will by you birth control glasses and fix your teeth.
Now, comment number two-o. Non-Americans care about US healthcare for the same reason Mac users try to talk their friends out of buying PCs, Honda owners try to talk their friends out of getting Saturns, and Leatherman owners try to talk their friends out of buying cheezie knockoffs and everybody tries to talk their kids out of listening to the Jonas brothers. They know that the other person is getting a inferior product, and they’re trying to get them to consider other options while they can.
