America's School System has Brought Back De-facto Segregation

[raindog]

Isn’t is possible that desegregation did more harm than good?

[Odesio]

@Damuri_Ajashi

I don’t think anyon thinks there is a problem with public education in rural areas (rural schools tend to be more one size fits all), the folks who want vouchers in rural areas basically want to send thie kids to religious schools.

Check out some of the schools in the rural areas of the Mississippi Delta in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Tennessee. There is a problem with public education in plenty of rural areas. Not that vouchers will help these people out very much given that they’re so poor to begin with.

Odesio

[Odesio]

@raindog

Isn’t is possible that desegregation did more harm than good?

Things weren’t all that great before desegregation. In Little Rock, Arkansas you could definitely see a difference between Central High (all white) and a nearby all black high school. The all black high school had more students, less space, a smaller budget, and the staff and faculty made a lot less money than their white counterparts. So far as I can tell this kind of situation was normal in all aspects of segregated life which is why it was decided that separate could not be equal.

[raindog]

@Odesio

Things weren’t all that great before desegregation. In Little Rock, Arkansas you could definitely see a difference between Central High (all white) and a nearby all black high school. The all black high school had more students, less space, a smaller budget, and the staff and faculty made a lot less money than their white counterparts. So far as I can tell this kind of situation was normal in all aspects of segregated life which is why it was decided that separate could not be equal.

Oh, I completely agree with the disparities. I’m not convinced that forced bussing was/is the solution. From where I sit------and after decades of forced bussing-----it doesn’t look to me that it worked. And…may have produced more harm than good.

[UltraVires]

@Damuri_Ajashi

Do you really think the problem is that these parents don’t have a coupon that will let them send their kids to private school?

It is a problem for the family that realizes the dire situation they are in and want to make sure that their kids don’t make the same mistakes.

Currently, they have no choice but to send their child to a dangerous inner city school where they can learn thug life and end up idiots just like their parents.

“But we would be taking money away from these public schools who need it the most!” Those schools don’t need money; they need to be closed down and then burned down. The administration of those schools are either unable or unwilling to enforce a modicum of discipline, and this permanently keeps minorities in the same squalor that their parents live in.

[Damuri_Ajashi]

@Odesio

Check out some of the schools in the rural areas of the Mississippi Delta in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Tennessee. There is a problem with public education in plenty of rural areas. Not that vouchers will help these people out very much given that they’re so poor to begin with.

Odesio

You’re right, I guess I was talking about the “benefits of choice and competition” that seem to be a central element of the voucher proponents argument.

[Damuri_Ajashi]

@jtgain

It is a problem for the family that realizes the dire situation they are in and want to make sure that their kids don’t make the same mistakes.

Currently, they have no choice but to send their child to a dangerous inner city school where they can learn thug life and end up idiots just like their parents.

“But we would be taking money away from these public schools who need it the most!” Those schools don’t need money; they need to be closed down and then burned down. The administration of those schools are either unable or unwilling to enforce a modicum of discipline, and this permanently keeps minorities in the same squalor that their parents live in.

And why don’t charter schools address every issue you bring up? What do $3000 (or $7000) vouchers do for these poor families that a charter school doesn’t do better?