Amputations as punishment

[Mortimus]

Sorry if this is gruesome…

In certain countries various bodily parts are amputated as punishment. Other punishments may include flogging. There is intent to inflict what seems to be a specific, measured amount of physical damage.

In the case of amputations is the offending body part just whacked off with whatever sharp implement is handy? Is the amputee left to lay there and bleed out?

Or are punitive amputations performed by medically trained personnel under something resembling operating room conditions?

Is there some sort of obligation to not cause any more physical damage other than what is deemed necessary by the court?

In the case of flogging or caning I would suspect the possibility of life threatening infection to be very high. Are antibiotics used to minimize the possibility of unintended death?

[Critical1]

back in the days before I learned not to click on every single damn thing I came across I saw a video of a guy getting his hand and foot cut off, they appear to have tied both limbs off with rope before cutting them off with a saw or large knife (it was really low quality video) then they put plastic bags over each and tied them off with a rubber band or something.
gruesome as hell.

[panaccione]

I once saw something similar where they did it with wire and kept wrapping it around tighter and tighter until the hand fell off. Pretty sick shit.

[HazelNutCoffee]

I was just listening to a piece on Fresh Air about how al Qaeda have been using amputation in Mali to punish thieves. The amputations are done in public squares in order to scare the locals. Here’s a relevant article: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/north-mali-robber-describes-shariah-amputation

“When it was my turn, they took me blindfolded, and tied my right arm and my left leg just above the ankle with plastic ties to stop the circulation,” Hamidou said. “Suddenly I felt a pain in my right hand that was out of this world. My hand had just been chopped off. They put a compress on it. Very quickly they cut off my left foot, and they also put a compress on it to stop the bleeding.”

“At first I was afraid — but the pain I felt made me forget everything, even my fear. Then the Islamists put us in a car and drove us to the hospital.”

[md2000]

Yeah, I recall an interview with a young man in Afghanistan about the same situation. Except, apparently some big shot had been caught theiving and bribed the Taliban authorities to punish this innocent man instead. He had his hand cut off.

Obviously the plan is to leave the person alive but mutilated, so they do what is needed to stop immediate death (stop the bleeding). I assume the level of sterilization of instruments and infection control afterwards would be about what you’d expect in a third world country without a lot of health education.

[FrankJBN]

I recall an interview with a young man in Afghanistan about the same situation. Except, apparently some big shot had been caught theiving and bribed the Taliban authorities to punish this innocent man instead

Every convicted criminal says somebody else did it.

[md2000]

@FrankJBN

I recall an interview with a young man in Afghanistan about the same situation. Except, apparently some big shot had been caught theiving and bribed the Taliban authorities to punish this innocent man instead

Every convicted criminal says somebody else did it.

And Taliban administration of justice in the largest source of narcotics in the world … was beyond reproach.

The documentary did interview a few others in his village that also insisted he ahd been railroaded. Whether guilty or not, this points to the major difficulty of mutilation and the death penalty - no take-backs.