Where do you get that idea? As I mentioned, 5’7" and 160 pounds is not impossible for a size 8. If Schumer’s weight fluctuates below that, as I’m guessing from various photos of her it tends to do, then saying she goes between size 6 and size 8 sounds reasonable.
I’m not particularly a Schumer fan but I don’t get the widespread indignation about the fact that she dares to present herself as not particularly fat and not particularly ugly (e.g., when she plays movie/TV characters who get romantic/sexual attention from men).
She has gained a decent amount of weight since then. See here, here, and here. That said, she looks great, and her show is really funny. I just think you lose a few points by simultaneously arguing women are beautiful and glamorous at any size, and feeling the need to point out that you are a size 6. Doubly so when you almost assuredly are not a size 6.
That is very possibly a size 8. The issue is nobody believes Amy Schumer is 5’7" and 160 lbs. Also, I agree with the rest of his post, that Amy is more mad about being called fat than she is about “unrealistic body standards” or whatever. When being thinner than Amy f-ing Schumer is unrealistic, we’re all fucked.
Even in that photo, the most flattering I’ve ever seen of her (slimming angle, half in the shade), 6 my ass.
More importantly, I’m bothered that I spent this much time discussing the most loathsomely unfunny woman I’ve heard from in a long time.
Check the charts I linked to. E.g., an average weight for a 5’2" size 8 woman is 125 pounds, average weight for a 5’4" size 8 woman is 135 pounds, etc. For a given weight, the taller you are, the smaller your clothing size tends to be. Equivalently, for a given clothing size, the shorter you are, the less you tend to weigh.
If Amy Schumer were 5’1" and a size 6-8, she’d have to weigh under 120 pounds or so. But since she’s 5’7", it’s not unreasonable that she could be a size 8 even at 160 pounds.
Compared with the hollow-eyed starved-out wraiths that Hollywood considers “normal”, yes, Amy Schumer is plus-sized. And that’s what you wanna go for, a healthy girl with some curvature.
Amy needs to relax and focus on the jokes. She’s fine.
WTF? Do you think celebrities can just make up numbers even for their height and nobody checks it?
Here’s Schumer standing next to Christina Hendricks, whose height is also generally given as 5’7". Schumer looks slightly taller than Hendricks in that photo.
Here’s Schumer next to, and slightly taller than, the 5’6" Vanessa Bayer.
There’s tons of pictures of her all over the internet; she looks about 5’7" and she looks about 140-160 pounds, depending on whether she’s on the slim or chubby side of her size range. Why on earth would you find this unbelievable?
Remember, though, that if you’re a woman in show business your size is tightly linked to what kind of jobs you can get, even if your schtick is more “sassy comedienne” than “gorgeous starlet”.
There are good sound business reasons for Amy Schumer to push back against having “plus size” attached to her image without her consent, given that she’s not actually plus-size in the usual sense of the term. Even if she sincerely thinks that plus-size women can be beautiful and glamorous, she will not want to be restricted in her career to only the kind of roles that plus-size women get.
Circa 2011-2012, she was definitely on the slimmer side. (There’s an unflattering head-on angle for you.) Or see here. (That’s a more flattering angle, though.)
She’s not a size 6 or 8 now, but I can easily believe she was at the very least a size 8, if not a 6 within the last 5 years.
I don’t know what size she is, but from what I’ve seen of her show I wouldn’t think she’d be vain about her size. She looks glamorous and desirable in some sketches, but in some she purposely messes with the standards on women. But I understand her point about being bothered with being held up as a plus size woman and that distorting regular women and teens barometer of what plus size is.
She didn’t sit down with Glamour for an interview and photo shoot to be in their plus-sized issue. She sat down with them for whatever interview and photo shoot last year, and they are reusing the content. I’m sure Glamour is perfectly in the right to do so, but I can understand her issue.
I haven’t watched all of her show, but I’ve liked what I’ve seen. Considering her show I don’t know if it’s ironic for people to be talking about how fuckable she is and how she should relax, or if it’s just inevitable.
“Not impossible” is certainly not a ringing endorsement for the truth of her statement. That’s even putting aside the fact that the weight is based on her statements alone as well. Just looking at size charts, because I am by no means an expert, she’s likely between a 12 and a 14.
Well, I don’t think that’s where the indignation comes from. I think she gets a tiny bit of crap because she keeps conflating the notes she gets from Hollywood types on her appearance with general criticism about her and women’s bodies.
If you voluntarily go into one of the more looks conscious businesses, you are bound to receive criticism however misguided. This is a place where Bradley Cooper was thought to be not handsome enough to be a leading man. In fact, he was told he was “not really fuckable” ironically enough.
Further, she is ineptly trying to walk this fine line of not shaming overweight people, and telling people they shouldn’t be judged based on their body, while taking great strides to make sure you know she is not is not overweight in her estimation, and using appearance as fodder for comedy. Like Amy said, she likely has never had a problem getting attention from men, yet she seems to be seeking this weird type of validation she claims she doesn’t need. She is a great comedian, but this particular critique reads really hollow to me.
And finally, here’s last November’s Leibovitz portrait of her (among a bunch of other pix) in nothing but high heels and underwear. She’s obviously not slender but equally obviously not fat; 160 pounds sounds perfectly plausible.
Except that those charts don’t take into account height. Yes, an average-height woman weighing 160 pounds is probably several sizes larger than size 8, but Schumer’s on the tall side.
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Well, like I said, it’s tough for women in show business. If Schumer wants mainstream attention and major roles—and why shouldn’t she, if she’s got the celebrity value?—then she has to present as conventionally attractive to some extent, even while making fun of conventional standards of attractiveness.
Believe me, I think it would be great if more people paid more attention to actresses based on other criteria than how young and hot they are. But Schumer didn’t deal that hand to herself, and I don’t see why she’s at fault for playing it as best she can.
Yes, but that is largely true for everyone until you become a bankable superstar. Yes, women have it worse, but not that much worse. It’s not George Clooney and Will Smith are that much closer to the average man than Jennifer Lawrence and Amy Adams are to the average woman. The issue is that there are just fewer good roles in general for women. It’s not usually a looks thing.
But when do you get to agree to every label attached to you as a professional actor? It’s not like when you call someone a character actor, or an “everyman”, you have to get their okay. And again, the magazine didn’t call her plus-sized. I can see how one can make that inference given the target market for the issue, but I don’t know if that’s enough to call them out on.
First, she is close to plus-sized depending on the definition. Second, I don’t think that “label” has any ability to hurt her career. Being overweight as a comedienne has never really been as big an issue.
WTF is even this post? Women who are 5’1" and wear a size 8 are overweight. Period. They don’t weigh anywhere near the 110s. A woman who is much taller and wears that size isn’t. Have you any experience with women’s clothing? Sizes vary, yes, but you’re just talking silliness now.
If of two women of different heights wear the same dress size, the shorter one is most definitely fatter. If the dimensions of a size 8 dress, say, include a 30" waist, who’s fatter: the short woman with that waist size or the tall one? You’re not even making sense.
If you honestly believe that a woman who is 5’2" and wears a size 4 will appear just as thin as a 5’9" who wears a size 4, I don’t know what else to tell you.
Well celebs to pad their heights all the time, yes, but I am willing to believe she is 5’7". I am not willing to believe that if she is 5’7" that she is also 160 lbs. If she’s 160, then I’ve declared that I weigh 95 lbs.
As a super-plus-sized woman I have always felt bad for women who, to me, are pretty much “average sized” (like a 12 or 14) having to share the same label as someone like me who is clearly much bigger. I don’t mind the label at all - it’s much better than gross-sized or intolerable-sized!
I see where she’s coming from. She probably would not mind being called plus-sized if she was a 14 or a 16. Melissa McCarthy I’m sure doesn’t mind it (she thinks “well, duh!”)
But the connotation of “plus-sized” is “larger than average” and even if Amy is a 10 or 12 instead of her self-reported 6, it’s pretty depressing and somewhat irresponsible to be saying women who are her size are larger-than-average.
It actually might not mean fuck all to Amy as a person to be labeled as “plus-sized” because she thinks the label is incorrect. But the question she posed wasn’t “DO U THINK I’M FAT??” but rather “Should we be telling women who are sizes 6-10 that they are larger-than-normal? Is that responsible of the media?”
You don’t, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a sensible career move to push back publicly against labels you’d rather not have.
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Not as big an issue as for typical ingenues or leading ladies, no, but it can make a definite difference. Schumer would not be getting rom-com leads such as Trainwreck if she had the figure of, say, Melissa McCarthy.
WTF? Do you think celebrities can just make up numbers even for their height and nobody checks it?
