No. He’s not. If this were posted in an online paper it would be accurately labeled as fake news. Just because it’s a liberal opinion doesn’t make it a fact.
Nope; just because it’s a fact makes it a fact.
Perhaps they should.
The Plunder of Russia in the 1990s
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At its simplest, it is a breezy, slightly cynical, highly entertaining
narrative of Russian history from the last months of Gorbachev’s rule to
April 2000 — a period which saw Russia transformed from a decaying socialist
economy (which despite its shortcomings, provided a modest standard of living
to its citizens) to a “managed economy” where home-grown gangsters and
socialist theoreticians from the West, like Hay and his fellow Harvardian
Jeffrey Sachs, delivered 2,500% inflation and indescribable poverty, and
transferred the ownership of Russian industry to Western financiers.* -
Williamson was an eyewitness who lived on and off in Russia for more than
ten years, where she reported on all things Russian for The New York Times, Th
e Wall Street Journal, and a host of other equally reputable publications.
She knew and interviewed just about everybody involved in this gargantuan
plundering scheme: Russian politicians and businessmen, the new “gangster”
capitalists and their American sponsors from the IMF, the World Bank, USAID,
Credit Suisse First Boston, the CIA, the KGB — all in all, hundreds of
sources who spoke candidly, often ruthlessly, of their parts in this terrible
human drama.* -
Once the Clinton regime and its lapdogs in the media defined Russian thug
Boris Yeltsin as a “democrat,” the wholesale looting of Russia began.
According to the socialist theoreticians at Harvard, Russia needed to be
brought into the New World Order in a hurry; and what better way to do it
than Sachs’ “shock therapy” — a plan that empowered the degenerate,
third-generation descendants of the original Bolsheviks by assigning them the
deeds of Russia’s mightiest state-owned industries — including the giant gas,
oil, electrical, and telecommunications industries, the world’s largest
paper, iron, and steel factories, the world’s richest gold, silver, diamond,
and platinum mines, automobile and airplane factories, etc. — who, in turn,
sold some of their shares of the properties to Westerners for a song, and
pocketed the cash, while retaining control of the companies.*
The same is now being repeated on the West.
I’m no fan of privatization. Yes, it creates oligarchs (thus making it as attractive to would-be dictators as it may have been to ‘westernizers.’)
OP, the quoted sections were memes repeated through this election cycle to the point of cliche. Trump was repeatedly called a middle finger, or a brick through the window, or a molotov cocktail thrown at the elites. SJWs and black people were blamed for reactionaries, like always. Hillary was called a bad candidate now, six months ago, and eight years ago.
Ever think that they listened and didn’t like what they heard?
That is not what he said. The quote is “most Americans don’t care about transgender bathrooms, or safe spaces, or government speech laws”.
That is absolutely true. Those types of issues are just smokescreens that get randomly thrown out and they aren’t important at all to most Americans. That is one thing the Left should learn if they want to be more successful. You can’t just bombard people with the fringe social issues of the week and expect them to listen for long. Why would someone in Michigan give two shits about transgender bathrooms in North Carolina when they just lost their job? It is the lack of perspective that wears people down (not in a good way) and pisses them off. Out of all the important issues we could be discussing, many on the Left pick some random, bullshit ones in quick succession when they believe they have the political upper hand and then blow it because people find it so obnoxious.
These fads come in cycles. I saw the same ones when I was in college in the early 1990’s before it got beaten down for the same reasons. I assumed it was dead for good but no, it came back with a vengeance in the last 5 years or so until sensible people got sick of it yet again. I would love to think they will learn for good this time and focus on much higher priority issues but we all know that won’t happen in the long-term.
“These fads” affect people. The USA appears to be divided between those who are capable of caring about those who don’t happen to be identical to themselves, and those who lack that capacity.
No, they were fed a line of complete bullshit by Trump, and preferred candy and ponies over policy and hard work.
The believed the absolute crap that was fed to them by facebook memes, over the actual reports containing facts and critical thinking.
They don’t just “lack the capacity” of caring.
They want to actively persecute and hate those who are different from them, and have been getting more and more pissed off over the past years that they are no longer allowed to do this in public.
Meh, as Hillary got almost 3 millions more votes it follows that most voters did care. But to turn it around, why is it then that we should ignore what most Americans wanted?
Sure, I know the rules, they tell us that because of the Electoral [del]collage[/del] College that Trump will be the president, but the rules also tell us that he could not hang around for long if he decides to ignore what the plurality of Americans wanted.
Yes. And they want, also, to feel righteous about the persecuting and hating. And to be exempt from criticism.
Speaking of hate-mongers, we can confidently expect that the “thank you tour” rallies that take place after December 19 will be much more–shall we say–exciting than the pre-EC-vote rallies. Trump has been visibly refraining from going where his instincts lead him; he’s permitted himself only some stray comments about the Disgusting Media. But after this thing is locked down, he will be going for the passionate cheering that comes only in response to really vicious scapegoating.
Huzzah!
When you say this who are you talking about? Every member of the Republican Party?
Who expected them to? To the best of my memory, only one presidential candidate (Ted Cruz) tried to make bathrooms a major part of his campaign, and he lost way back in May.
Is there any evidence that the result in November had anything to do with bathrooms? I’ve heard that several times, even though neither general election candidate made a big deal about them, and the only candidate (Pat McCrory) who seems to have lost as a result of bathrooms was a Republican.
It’s fairly specious to claim that most American voters preferred Hillary. In reality it was most mega-city voters voters who preferred Hillary, and even then by not all that wide a margin.
And the reason most huge city voters trend Democratic is because they have large population segments who’ve been trained over the last 50 years to look to the government to take care of them and provide for them. So they vote Democratic because they know Democrats are the ones who’ll work to buy their votes with other people’s money.
This rarely works out well, however, as the most heavily Democratic/liberal cities in America are not so coincidentally hell-holes to live in. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, etc., are perfect examples.
And then we have coastal California, with a huge population of illegal immigrants who have legal relatives here who are all too happy to vote Democratic because it’s the Democrats who want to give illegals drivers licenses and health care and welfare, and who have even taken to trying to make all of a state’s residents eligible to vote whether they’re legal citizens or not.
And then of course we have San Francisco, where people are freely pissing in public and having naked bicycle protest rides and the stench and disgusting behavior of homeless drug addicts and criminals who are allowed to accost people and crash anywhere and everywhere is inescapable. But the politicians there care about people, so nothing can be done about all that crap but to allow more of it.
So yeah, given all this, Hillary drew more votes than Trump. But most of those votes came from people who care about transgender bathrooms and safe spaces and micro aggressions so much as they cared about continuing government assistance, impotent municipal governance that allows them to do what they want, and open borders.
And yet even with all that, Hillary only barely edged Trump in these areas. Her 3 million or whatever vote margin is a total from all these big city areas across the country. When you consider that metropolitan L.A. alone has a population of almost 20 million, it becomes apparent that Hillary’s superior popular vote margin, which is meaningless anyway given that the country was deliberately set up so as not to allow large population areas to call all the shots, was really just a squeaker and attributable not to a basket of deplorables but to a basket of dependants. Remove them from the equation and you have a plurality of the productive and law abiding segment of American votership who feel much as those described in the OP.
Well, first off, first time I’ve read of this. Skimming Google a bit it looks like it was a petition by a bunch of black students, not anything widespread at all, and it mostly was grabbed by right-wing media as some sort of meme.
In any case, there’s a trillion things worse than that. Like actual segregation, for instance.
If they didn’t care, why would that be an issue?
:smack: Wrong. The rational thinkers start by explaining things clearly and patiently, trying long words, short words and then medium-sized words. It’s only when the bloated-amygdala types stubbornly ignore reason, facts and logic, and demonstrate that they cling only to the “truths” of Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, that the rational thinkers get exasperated and resort to insults, thinking in vain that maybe strong language is the way to get through to the willfully ignorant.
For example, many of the anti-Hillary crowd base some of their hatred on her alleged support for the 2003 Iraq War. I provided Hillary’s actual words explaining her vote from the Senate floor. Two people thanked me, saying it had reversed their understanding but these were voters who were going to vote for Hillary anyway, just now with less reluctance. The anti-Hillary Trumpists continued to prattle their ignorance.
For another example:
Nobody here misunderstands the electoral college, nor do they believe any other Doper does. But for 49% of Americans random snark and nonsensical innuendo trump reason. As with third-graders squabbling on the playground, reason doesn’t enter into it. Trumpism trumps reason.
If they understood the electoral college they wouldn’t be endlessly whinging about the popular vote.
In your long history here, this rates as one of the largest steaming dumps you have left.
So, urban voters don’t count because we’re “on the dole.” Nope. Most of us are in the cities because that’s where the work is. We’re not waiting beside a hole in the ground, hoping to mine coal again. We’re not hoping those red brick textile mills over the river reopen. These mills are in the far off city of my birth–but most of them now house apartments for commuters down to Boston, cool restaurants & at least one craft brewery. (The mills moved South many years ago; people adjusted.)
Those cities you call hell-holes are not that bad. Even Detroit has patches where people are looking to the future. Chicago? Baltimore? Those gangster movies & those police shows are *not *reality. San Francisco’s main problem is gentrification; those weirdos can hardly afford to live there any more.
Thank you for showing that Trump voters are not all pore folks looking for a better America. Apparently a large number are racist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic–and fearful of the future.
The Electoral college was created by the Constitution but its undemocratic balance was created by the great minds who gave us the Apportionment Act of 1911. Despite that, if we’d managed to get more sane people out–we would have won the Electoral college, too. (Always remember that more of us wanted Clinton–Trump surely does.)
The next two years will be rough. They’ll be rough for quite a few Trump voters–even more than us useless city dwellers. But we’ll do what we can to fight the wretched Republicans (not just their Idiot Leader) & keep our principles, too.
I live in Houston, Texas. We’ve got a population greater than any of 30 states & we went for Hillary. Where do you live?
Chicago has its issues but a hell-hole it is not. I can live pretty much wherever I want, and this is where I choose. I love this city. And it’s not a liberal city. Democrat, yes. Liberal, not as much.