An english lesson please

Ok…I was just using SO as an example. I don’t actually use the term/abbreviation SO. I don’t even have a significant other right now. With that said I think that it has been explained to where even I can understand it. (Hey, we all know more than the next guy about something. Obviously I don’t know shit about grammar and spelling.) Thanks for your help.

Now then, just to recap, If the term/acronym/abbreviation starts with a vowel sound (not necessarily a vowel) then we use AN if it starts with a consonant sound then we use A. I hope that’s right. If not I’m giving up on the English language and only use sign language.


Thanks,

Daniel

I think I have to side with Chuck on this one, TenHip. While the definition of acronym may make it a word, common usage does not. I have never once said “FUH-by agent”, but rather “F-B-I agent”. The initial sound of the noun to which the article refers determines which article it takes. If the name of the letter is pronounced, there may very well be an initial vowel sound, as in “eff”. If the letter itself is pronounced, then there usually isn’t.


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Tennhippie speaks the righteous truth.
FBI, UN and SO are not acronyms. If you say the actual letters, they are abbreviations.

i’ve heard that an acronym is only considered such if the resulting grouping of letters makes up a pronouncable word (RADAR, LASER). other than that, it is considered initialism (FBI). but i still have arguments with my dad about UFOs (him ufo, me U.F.O.)

if the word following the a(n) starts with a vowel sound (ah,ay,ee,eh,ih,ie,oe,aw,oo,uh) then you require the (n), if the word begins with a consonant sound (which in the above examples includes yu for union) the (a) will suffice.

so now, if you wish the reader to interpret it a specific way, then use the appropriate form: “a SO” suggests “a S.O.”, whereas “an SO” suggests “an so”

except that the last paragraph should read the [bold]OPPOSITE![/bold]

so now, if you wish the reader to interpret it a specific way, then use the appropriate form: [bold]“an SO”[/bold] suggests [bold]“an S.O.”[/bold], whereas [bold]“a SO”[/bold] suggests [bold]“a so”[/bold].

and that I shold’ve checked the UBB codes first! sorry for the mess!

except that the last paragraph should read the OPPOSITE!

so now, if you wish the reader to interpret it a specific way, then use the appropriate form: “an SO” suggests “an S.O.”, whereas “a SO” suggests “a so”.

As has been pointed out: FBI, CIA, etc. are not acronyms. FEMA, NATO, UNESCO are.

However, in Ireland there exists an organisation called PDFORRA (Permanent Defence Forces Other Ranks Representative Association - it’s kind of an army trade union). It’s pronounced Pee Dee Forra. Does that make it a halfronym?

ben

Please note, I never said that SO was an acronym. I called it an abbreviation.

Further, “acronym” is often used in a nontechnical sense to mean anything formed using the initials of a phrase.

And whatever you call them, if you pronounce the letters separately – like in SO – it takes “a” or “an” depending on the pronunciation of the first letter.


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SoulFrost wrote:
HA! Esso…SO! NOW I get it!
Damn, I’m old.

Maybe not old enough - before “Esso”, it was called “S.O.”, for “Standard Oil”.

By the way - I’ve never heard of the phrase “significant other” abbreviated as “S.O.” (before this thread) - am I too old?

-Curt

Thanks, Nickrz.
RealityChuck, you did make the following assertion:
“…acronyms beginning with ‘s’ usually take ‘an’.”
I wasn’t arguing the “SO” question; I could go either way on that (and I am braced for the bi jokes). I was simply taking issue with that last statement.
As others pointed out, an abbreviation does not an acronym make.

So, Daniel, do you remember when your mother told you to be careful what you ask for…?

BTW, from what I’ve seen on this MB, a lot of SOs are assholes, IMHO.

CurtC:

Well, there are probably some IOs (insignificant others) around for us and other insignificants.

Ray (My other name is not an acronym.)

One simple rule: Read it aloud, then use the appropriate indefinite article.

Acronyms (a new and complete word formed from initial letters or initial parts of other words) are read as a word (and not read by reading the letters). So…

Scuba mask is read aloud as (scu’-bah) mask. Not Ess see ewe bee ay mask. So, it is a scuba mask.

[ Trivia ]Self contained underwater breathing apparatus – J. Costeau[ /Trivia ]

The same holds true for a NATO general, a laser beam, a MADD pamphlet, an Interpol criminal. You don’t say the letters of an acronym – ever. You read the word it spells.

Abbreviations are trickier because sometimes the abbreviation is pronounced by its letters, and sometimes the abbreviation is pronounced by the full, unabbreviated title of the thing being abbreviated.

For example, in the phrase Senator from NJ, the state is always read aloud as New Jersey, and never as enn jay even if it is abbreviated in print, and you’re reading that abbreviation aloud. And so, you’d write, a NJ Senator, because you’d say it (out loud or in your mind) as a New Jersey Senator.

However, some abbreviations are read aloud as the letters of the abbreviation, since we say the abbreviation out loud as well as write it that way. In the sentence I didn’t trust the nurse, so I got an M.D. to look at it, the abbreviation is read (aloud and in one’s head) as an emm dee.

So, it’d be proper to write an M.D. from a MD city.

The really tricky part comes from some abbreviations that can go both ways, or newly coined abbreviations where there has been no clear pattern established.

So, when you read my S.O. (or SO) got me a Valentine’s Day gift, do you read it aloud as ess oh or as significant other? Whichever is the norm, or the intent of the author, will determine whether to use a or an.

Peace.

A m. posting.

Thank you.


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