And John Kasich makes 16

And in addition to being racist, our GOP ‘moderate’ is sexist as well:

Because that’s the only thing that matters about a woman: is she a sexy babe?

More at Jezebel.

He’s taking some heat for comments about Latinos in service jobs, too: USA TODAY - Breaking News and Latest News Today

Would you say that Hillary Clinton “has been in public life long enough that there’s not much to scrutinize that hasn’t already been?”

Because you sure do like to criticize and scrutinize her.

It’s interesting to read about the most moderate of the GOP contenders.

And yet, the GOP base hates him for being too compassionate:

What a sad sad ugly joke the GOP has become.

At this point, ¡Jeb! 's older brother is looking like a compassionate good-spirited man compared with any of these evil hypocrites. He was the least qualified President in history, but that record will be broken if any of these ninnies win.

If the GOP candidate does get 51% of the vote come November 2016, we can all groan at the stupidity of Americans. But even if he loses, he’ll have gotten 47% of the vote or so. :smack: Heaven help America.

First, Motherjones is nothing but a partisan screed magazine, full of ragey liberals that have nothing to say because they can barely speak for all the foam exploding out of their mouths. So anything they write mus be considered intrinsically so partisan as to be of no value whatsoever. They are the lefty equivalent (along with terrible outlets like Rolling Stone and such) of the Washington Times or Fox News.

Secondly, Kasich requested the waiver in counties primarily in Appalachian Ohio–just as others had suggested, these have long been systemically the poorest counties in most states that have Appalachian counties. The fact that they are white is of little relevance, most of these counties lack any social services and many lack any real economy. Most of Ohio’s minority poor live in counties with much higher levels of social service availability.

This article explains that while most of the counties were Appalachian, the reason for the decision was that the counties chosen had, for the last 24 months, unemployment rates exceeding 120% of the national average. If John Kasich is a racist, at least provide a little evidence (the Mother Jones article does not) that any excluded counties also satisfied this criteria. If you cannot, it is de facto proof you are wrong and Kasich is not a racist for the reasons you laid out here.

This article details the beginnings of lawsuits against Kasich over this issue. They are specifically bitching that Cuyahoga County, where Cleveland is, isn’t a recipient of the waiver, given a legal society from Columbus is also suing I’m presuming Franklin County is also being cited as a high-minority county that should’ve received a waiver.

Cuyahoga’s unemployment rate recently was around 5%, below the national average. Franklin’s is 3.6%, Hamilton is 3.9% (where Cincinnati is), Montgomery County (where Dayton is) is 4.3%, Lucas County (Toledo) is 4.5%. Now, I’m not the one making claims against Kasich–that is you, so you’re the one who will have to vet the 24 month average unemployment rates for the months prior to the decision not to grant those waivers. But at least based on current data, the large urban counties in Ohio all have lower unemployment rates than the national average. And all of the highest unemployment counties are what you’d classify as rural counties, most in Appalachia.

All the Mother Jones article says in terms of actual proof is:

However, several of the counties I’ve already named (Cuyahoga, Franklin, Hamilton, Montgomery and Lucas) which if I had to bet a lot of money would be 5 of the 8 counties where “75% of Ohio’s minorities live” do not have higher unemployment rates than the Appalachian counties, in fact they have much lower rates. It’s possible at the time these groups sued, some of these counties may have had higher unemployment rates in the month back in 2013 or 2014 when these lawsuits started, or that 3 of the other 8 which I haven’t listed might have had higher unemployment rates. But as has been explained, the Kasich administration never took a snapshot of one month at the moment they made their decision, they used a 24 month average. So the person who was quoted as saying they didn’t get the basis, I guess they were ill informed because it seems pretty rational to me.

Just because a lot of black people live in Hamilton, Franklin, and Cuyahoga county and those counties didn’t get waivers doesn’t mean Kasich is a racist. It’s probably just a reflection that in Ohio the three biggest urban cities actually are in pretty good shape economically and white people in Appalachia do actually have it worse than blacks in those counties in terms of poverty.

The highest 10 unemployment counties in Ohio (all with higher rates than the national average): Monroe, Meigs, Adams, Scioto, Jefferson, Jackson, Pike, Morgan, Noble, Coschocton are all (except Coshocton) in the border area with West Virginia/Kentucky, and would be considered Appalachian.

It’ll be nice to see if anyone here can scrounge up any proof to support the baseless assertions you’ve made.

Kasich continues to carry the “compassionate conservative” banner with pride, telling seniors affected by cuts to “get over it”: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/john-kasich-get-over-it-social-security/index.html

Your linked story says he was addressing people “far from receiving Social Security.” Not seniors.

Yeah, it’s people 50 or under today, or thereabouts. Those who oppose SS cuts need to explain whose taxes they’ll raise to avoid them, or what other spending they’ll cut. The time when just eliminating the cap would fix SS has come and gone.

Here are the options and how much they reduce the financing gap:

Any candidate that has no proposal is a de facto supporter of benefit cuts, since they will occur automatically.

The point is, telling people to “get over it” is not compassionate. If he wants to be compassionate, then he needs to be the one proposing a way to fix the problem. Not telling people he’s just going to let it happen.

What he does to poor old people will also be something he has to answer for at the pearly gates. The Bible actually says that anything you do to poor people, you’re actually doing to Jesus.

Kasich expanded Medicaid when most Republicans didn’t. The elderly will face cuts to SS anyway, and Medicare’s insolvency is a lot closer than that. Kasich has a plan to do something about it.

His “Get over it” was just well calculated toughness to appeal to the part of the electorate that likes that sort of thing. If we want to get all our SS benefits, our taxes have to go up now. We either get over that, or we get over lower benefits. Either way, we’ll get over it.

“16 in 16!”! :smiley: LOL! :smiley:

Hey Martin, let me hold up a mirror for you:

Would be kinda hard to beat that sentence for being ‘ragey’ and having ‘foam exploding out of [its] mouth’.

Now can you say ‘projection’? I knew you could!

Kasich’s latest is that he wants a government agency to promote “Christian-Judeo” values abroad.

In all his years in gummint, you’d think he’d have heard of a little thing called the Establishment Clause.

And just think, he’s the moderate in the race.

In the last debate, he was certainly the most juvenile whiner. That took some doing, too.

He’s also climbing on the “no Syrian refugees here, thanks” bandwagon: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/17/politics/john-kasich-syria-refugees-isis-war/

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The sad thing is, there are better terms for what he’s describing. “Liberal democratic,” anyone? But of course he can’t use that phrase in a GOP primary, or in the GOP at all. Nor “socially liberal,” nor “social democratic.” “Libertarian” and “egalitarian” are pretty good descriptors, but maybe politically iffy. “Classically liberal” might be confusing?

So he pretends this is “Christian-Judeo” but really, that’s not the word. :confused:

I wonder if he used “Christian-Judeo” specifically to avoid saying “Judeo-Christian.”

I’m actually impressed with someone trying to equate liberal democracy with Christian values. Pulling that off might be a coup for the left.

So Kasich, placing 2nd in NH, becomes a semiserious prospect once again . . .

More on Kasich’s dark side: racism, sexism, xenophobia & demagoguery.

Naw, New Hampshire was the best state for him until later in March when Ohio runs, and by then a ton of delegates will have been awarded. He blew all of his cash load in New Hampshire and will have grave troubles being competitive in the next 15 or so contests.