Android: Not ready for prime time?

First, I don’t have a smartphone. I use a big-ass tablet with a detachable keyboard and use it in landscape mode, which leaves me in a minority. Fine, but why do so many apps, especially games, assume that everybody uses only portrait mode and can’t be shifted out of it, though the machine KNOWS it’s sideways? And some games and other apps work better in landscape. I have an app that is supposed to force landscape, but it is unreliable. I use a wireless mouse instead of a stylus or my finger and when it’s in portrait it assumes the mouse is too, making it a pain in the ass to use. I need to leave the app and uninstall it.

And can I use the right button to call up a submenu? No, it’s locked in as backpage. My middle finger has 25 years experience being used to call up menus, but the developers think they have a better use for it. As do I. :mad:

I had forgotten that Android was based on Linux, but the poor to nonexistent documentation reminded me of that. Earlier this evening I downloaded an MS-DOS emulator, but nowhere can I find where to put the bootdisk ISO to set it up. And when I do find documentation it tends to be arcane Linuxy shit. I don’t need that; I need to know how to operate it. I’ll get technical later.

So, considering how I’ve hated Android for a couple years, why did I buy this POS? It was cheap and had a proper USB port for my wireless mouse. But there is no way to run a business with it. Er, ignore that. I have a book with programs to run a business with a 1977 Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 1. This POS is slightly better.

It depends on your definition of prime time.

If it’s running a business in the sense of responding to e-mails, using Skype and Slack to collaborate with colleagues, doing some light word processing, using a Web site for your billing, and even planning a client’s landscaping or wedding reception, all within range of a Wi-Fi antenna, then an Android tablet can work great.

If it’s running a business in the sense of intense, all-day use of spreadsheets, databases and accounting programs, and printing bills and reports from those, then an Android tablet is a bad idea. All these things are possible to a degree, but the ecosystem is not geared towards it. A DOS emulator is a geek novelty, it may work in the technical sense but won’t turn your tablet into a (post-1992) laptop.

If it’s playing games, it’s a great platform, but yes, some games are designed for portrait and some for landscape. Android and iOS devices offer a way to lock the screen in landscape or portrait mode, but a version of Angry Birds designed for a vertical screen will run vertically. But most games offer a free trial, and if a game isn’t to your liking, there are thousands (hundreds of thousands) of others to choose from.

The fact that you’re using a mouse on Android, and expecting context menus, is telling. I recommend getting a Windows-based convertible tablet or laptop.

This hammer makes a lousy spatula. Are hammers not ready for prime time?

Almost all your complaints are about apps and not the OS. The right “button” thing is mainly due to the default touch screen interface. Not much can be done about that without breaking things for people with simple devices.

People can write crappy apps for any OS.

E.g., the forced portrait mode is one that astonishes me. I have a couple apps that do that when landscape is my default mode.

In computer jargon the programmers who do this sort of thing are technically known as “idiots”.

This is what I noticed when I read the OP as well. I think you need to understand that anyone can put an app in the appstore. I don’t use any Apple Devices, but I believe that’s not the case there.
Finding buggy apps on the Android system is very common. Generally it’s not worth pulling your hair out over, just uninstall it and try another one. Also, make sure you check how many downloads it has and the star ratings or reviews. An app with 5 million downloads is probably going to be more reliable than one with 10,000.

Android is a first class smartphone OS (at least, so long as Samsung or LG haven’t desecrated it.) unfortunately tablets seem to be second class citizens in Android-land.

While you’re technically correct, the distinction isn’t really relevant. Apps are the primary purpose of a mobile device, and if the OS provider doesn’t push developers to make tablet friendly app designs, they won’t. I’m betting the app in question forcing portrait mode is one which was designed for a phone and the developer didn’t bother to create a tablet UI.
Apple has been much better at getting developers on board.

While you are checking reviews, look for the menu in the App Store that lets you filter reviews for your device only. Since many Android devices work somewhat differently than others, this will give you a much better sense of how it will work on your particular model.

Second what Tim said above about device specific filtering of apps. I just had to put a new browser on my phone since Opera went to crap after the last android update and chrome is malware. I forgot to do the device filtering and spent a couple frustrated days installing and uninstalling browsers, until I remembered to do that.

(finally ended up with the ghostery browser. A little simpler than I’m used to but so far so good, I can read the Dope again without getting hijacked by ads)

re: the difference between apple apps devs and android apps devs, apple and google have (almost polar opposite) different goals for their OS’s and thus different models for app development and marketing.

To be fair, a hammer can be quite a useful and flexible tool. “Sounds like you had a pretty special and intimate relationship with this hammer and that losing it was almost comparable to losing a loved one.”

I have to say, though, that the original intent of the iPad (and implicitly, all small and medium sized tablets that followed it) was that it was primarily a media consumption and communication device rather than an all purpose computer to be used for business and scientific applications, and the AndroidOS was specifically designed to pare down the Linux operating system to just what was needed for mobile applications. Although the Microsoft Surface and iPad Pro have sort of bridged the gap between lightweight laptop and tablet, no Android tablet has really entered the same feature space, and the primary reason is that there is a limited audience for a full-sized tablet versus a really lightweight laptop.

The original iPad and tablets that followed were the perfect size for a larger handheld device, easily stored in a small book bag but giving enogh screen to watch videos or videochat without squinting. The smaller tablets (and supersized smartphones) fed the niche of devices that could fit in a large jacket pocket or,purse but still offer enough real estate for reading documents or watching videos. The full sized (10 inch or larger) tablets are really intended for artists or limited mobile productivity by someone away from their workstation, not as a full on replacement for a full sized laptop or workstation. The Microsoft Surface, while aiming for that space by merging its desktop and mobile operating systems, hasn’t received the market penetration that was expected even with favorable reviews, and the disappointment by many in the totally expected limitations of the iPad Pro along with a size and weight that makes it awkward has a mobile media consumption device have resulted in less than stellar reviews and sales.

All that being said, I’ve managed to use the iPad Air as a reasonably good device for mobile computing including hacking Python and using it to connect to more powerful stationary devices for remote work. I actually use my tablet for >90% of my home media use, and actually the only reasons I watch vidoes on my laptop is because I’m already sitting at my workstation doing other work. It is so much easier to carry around and has more battery life, and with a robust case I don’t worry about accidentally dropping it or spilling something on it. In fact, other than being on travel, I can’t remember the last time I actually used my laptop computer in the laptop mode rather than being attached to a monitor and external peripherals; for nearly all I used it for, it might as well be a featureless brick, and the iPad serves for casual internet browsing, watching video and, checking emails.

Also, there is a ton of documentation about AndroidOS online. It does not come from one canonical source because AndoridOS is open source and like many things developed by Google gets a variable degree of support, but you can find pretty much anything about how to use the operating system for free with a little searching, or buy one of those “For Dummies” type books; probably as much as for iOS or Windows 10 Mobile. If there is a reason to disdain AndroidOS, it is the vulnerabililty and lack of commitment to ensuring user privacy, not its lack of flexibility or documentation.

Stranger

But why would they have a right click default when the presumed user is using their finger or stylus and how would changing what a right click does affect them?

And as several have said, any idiot can post their “app” on Google Play. Said app usually being a rip-off of Bejeweled (I used to play it on my Palm Pilot, FFS–it’s seems to be the HELLO WORLD in the Android app universe) or an audio player with a plethora of pretty skins but poor usability. I don’t care what it looks like because I’m not looking at it while the music’s playing. I just want an easy way to create and modify a playlist. Are no programming classes teaching the value of a quality UI anymore?

Not finding it. OTOH, everything I look says that it may not be optimized for my device.

Why I’m saying that Android is not ready for prime time is that it is almost completely aimed at casual phone use, not serious all day every day use, unless we’re talking variations on texting all day every day. I would think that Google, with its Chromebooks, would be more interested in that.

It’s a smartphone OS. Smartphones aren’t intended or designed for “serious all day every day use”, whatever that would look like for a phone.

Chromebooks run Chrome OS, not Android.

Android tablets have never had consistent support, and it really isn’t a good experience. I think Chrome tablets will fully replace android tablets within a few years, at least for this type of use. Android tablets will stick around, but I would expect them to be almost totally sold as entertainment devices and likely budget-oriented.

The Chromebook is explicitly not intended for “serious use” (and ChromeOS is not AndroidOS). It is a stripped down system intended to provide low cost access to users who could not afford or do not need a full featured system with data residing “in the cloud”, and oh by the way, allowing Google to data mine users for their own purposes. You are correct that Android is specifically targeted for mobile users and not intended to be a general purpose operating system for productivity applications, which is not some oversight on the part of Google and the manufacturers building devices which use it, but a deliberate choice to use a lightweight operating system that minimizes hardware performance.

If you are trying to run the Dakar Rally in a Camry, you are going to be disappointed. But if you need a commuter car, that Camry is going to suit you far better than these vehicles.

Stranger

Then why was it picked up for every tablet that isn’t by Apple? FTR, I hate iOS even more, but you probably guessed that already.

I can’t blame them. :wink:

Every budget tablet that isn’t Apple, you mean. If you want to do real work on a tablet, I believe you should be looking at the Surface Pro.

I’m an ex-CS prof. In short:

  1. Few UI profs really understand the user perspective so they don’t do a good job teaching it.
  2. Students are unbelievably horrible about retaining anything like this they are taught. Even with a great prof most just won’t get it.
  3. Very few of the app programmers out there ever took a class that had even a tiny bit of UI concepts.

Good UI designs come from great, demanding corporate culture. Most apps are from very small companies (perhaps just one developer). So the culture is rarely there.

Anyway …

Yeah, Google did a bad job with their tablet interface so their solution was to drop it. Well, that fixed it!

But it is not usually an issue with phone vs. tablet design. I actually do use my phone in landscape mode. Having the buttons on the right and the wider layout is great. Unless the idiot programmer thinks I have to use portrait mode. Grrrr.

Android is an open ecosystem. This is great. So there’s a few annoyances here and there. The pluses outweigh the minuses. (Well, there is the major issue of almost no one issuing patches and updates properly. Some major phone makers have been found to be faking patches!)

Additionally, keep in mind that different Android devices are marketed to consumers at various price levels, so how well they perform varies with their technical specs.

Pre-1992 is fine. I mean, I also use a Tandy Model 100. :smiley:

Or I could fix the Win10 with an XP UI laptop I already own. Or I could use my XP Thinkpad, but Lordy, it’s a virus attractor.

Hey! I useta have a 700C! A couple of 'em. They broke. You may ask me to defend my addiction to Thinkpads by IBM and Lenovo if all but one are broken. I can’t. :o

Considering I paid $75 for this one NEW, it performs rather well.