Agreeing with the assessment of Christo. I saw a documentary on his building of a fabric fence across the red states. The ranchers, at first, were VERY reluctant to let it on their land. After watching it develop and realizing how cool it was, they happily let Christo and Jeanna Claude build it.
Do you actually know how much oil paint and canvas cost? Do you have any idea of the basic component cost of a small painting? Let alone the hourly labour that goes into it? ANY idea? Ballpark figure?
Check this out: http://danielsmith.com/categories/paint/oilColor/ds/default.asp#sortTop
Money is kind of … actually… unfortunately necessary for the creation of art in some media, at least within a capitalist society.
What I like personally is not the point. I keep my art in my house for me and certain guests to see. My art means a lot to me. Some of it is by me, some is by friends, some is historically important, some is just some junk I found in the back yard. The POINT is, I dont put it in Times Square or try to get the government to pay for it.
What you said is in previous posts is that people making art…are idiots…because they surounded an island with pink woven polypropylene fabric as opposed to give money to a disaster fund…essiantly that they should STOP making their art, because of the tragedy…
also…this post sugests So in order to make good art, you cant be an artist.
and you want to live in lego land.
Uhhh, which maybe gives a little perspective on just how entirely unimportant this issue really is? Seriously, some people act like half their fucking paycheck goes to funding “offensive art”. Yeah, it’s not an issue that I would use in my choice of Mayor, or even City Council represenative. Because it is an extremely minuscule portion of any budget and a ridiculous thing about which to shake one’s fist.
You’re right. What the government can do is find those people and buy their stuff and publicly display it. And they ought to do this not for the good of the artists–screw 'em–but for the good of the rest of us. Society needs beauty in the world. It is good and meet that society’s organ, government, organize and fund those aesthetic concerns.
I mean, is it ok to put a fountain in front of that hospital you want to fund?
Your just proving my point. Art isnt about oil paint and canvas! Its about taking what is available to you and making a statement. If you find a barrier like missing cash, you have the opportunity for creativity! Thats what art is all about! It probably started with a burnt end of a stick on a wall, or mabey a rock dragged on a harder, darker rock. If you cant make a statement without “oil and canvas”, mabey you honestly dont have anything to say.
So, what is it precisely that’s the problem with publically funding art?
You know what you like and what you value and what you think is art. That’s cool. That’s fine. You’ve no right to tell someone else what isn’t art to them.
Keep your “Dogs Playing Poker”, and I’ll keep “Starry Night”.
OK, why don’t you explain your point to me, if I missed it.
now your changing your tune…
“modern art that means squat to 99% of its audience is worthless junk that shouldnt have left the storage facility.”
that is what you opened with.
Yes, their statment was “Hey everybody, pink plastic around an island!” and my statment back is “You are an idiot! You could have spent all that money making several houses for poor people and investing in a copy of photoshop to put pink around some islands!” I mean, yes, they can do whatever they want, but if they can make the statement in the first place, Im well within my right to react. I believe their point was to get some kind of reaction, right? Were they hoping no one would notice? Did they expect everyone to embrace the pink plastic with “Wow what amazingness! My life was meaningless before the pink plastic!”
The first part of this sentence is fine. The last part is laughable.
And I’m someone whose art form doesn’t really have unusual expenses.
I didnt imply that no one in germany was not in need of food or housing…i mean that art in that country should not cease because of tragedy in that country similary after 9/11 i didnt think any american artist should stop…if so we would have never gotten John Adams “on the transmiration of souls” a beautiful piece of music that exists soley becuase of the tragedy… …I didnt atempt to solve any social problems…
Cute. If someone can’t relate to you “art” in a way you like or acknowledge, it doesn’t exist.
Also “oil and canvas” are merely the tools for creating one medium. Obviously, it doesn’t demand those two things. You already know this, but you lean against it as a crutch.
you’re such an ignorat twat…
Ah, Andy Rooney, the Human Hemorrhoid. I say that when he dies we should dip him in bronze and put him in Washington Square so the pigeons can shit on him while the rastas smoke dope and play hackysack and everyone complains about what an ugly work of art he is.
Actually, the greatest exposure to art I have ever had is the Impressionist exhibit at the Art Institute of Chicago. This collection was started by Mrs. Potter Palmer, a private and very wealthy citizen, who bought the art because she loved it, and donated it to the public good. So, no, I do not believe that art should only be for the rich, but there are plenty of examples where art is paid for by the rich, and appreciated by the rest of us common folks.
Once again, you trumpet your ignorance and fight it like you’re proud of it.
I can’t believe you people are fussing about art when the WORLD CUP is on!!!
Shame, etc.
beautiful!! 