And that actually makes me pause, much more than name calling. I will spend some time today thinking about that, and pondering why my responses in this thread read so differently from my usual responses. I am feeling a bit grr these last few days, so it’s possible I’m projecting that onto an unwitting and undeserving topic. I think the best response from me, for the moment, is to pull out of this thread and think about it. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
Namaste
Yeah, Heffalump and Roo, we all know your actual “issue” is that you’re an annoying busybody with a 2-foot stick up your ass.
I don’t know if you were all McD’s employees that had to clean up one too many vomit spills, but the apologies don’t change the fact that there was whole bunch of blind bitch in this thread. It was some pretty deliberate misreading and jumping to the worst conclusions, not some simple misunderstanding.
Enjoy my humble regards,
CarnalK
Translation:
“I’m sorry if you were so sensitive that you got upset, but i still think you’re a liar.”
You really are a piece of work.
Of course, by nitpicking very slight inconsistencies in a couple of tiny details, you can conveniently ignore the fact that your main assumption—that AngryIrishLass just up and left the restaurant, making no attempt to tell anyone or to fix the situation—has been clearly and unequivocally shown to be bullshit. If you had any class whatsoever, you’d apologize unreservedly, and undertake not to make ridiculous inferences based on virtually zero information.
attributed to Herbert Spencer (probably wrongly)
Yeah, this thread embodies everything I hate about The Pit.
Considering what AngryIrishLass wrote in that thread, the behavior/attitudes are being attributed to her here is not even remotely rational. To an objective bystander, it looks like some people just got bored and decided to stick it to some lady posting an embarrassing story. People have invented motives and conduct for her without even giving her the benefit of the doubt, and then when she defends herself by giving the full details of the story, they’ve reserved suspicion because she is, after all, defending herself. As if the act of defending oneself is suspicious in and of itself.
That is so colossally stupid there are no words. I’ve seen it happen here 1 billion times, and the only reason I don’t speak up more often is because I don’t want anybody turning on me. Believe it or not, for some of us, that shit hurts.
(Yes, insults hurt my feelings! I must be some kind of freak!)
And WhyNot, while you haven’t been as brutal as some in this thread, I do find your jumping to conclusions to be out of character. I was surprised to see you come down the way you did here, given the paucity of evidence in the original thread to support your conclusion. Namaste right back atchya.
I know you’ve already said you’re going to rethink your actions in this thread, but I have to add a bit more to the karmic pile-on by pointing out how cheap the above quote is. Calling someone a liar, and then saying you’re willing to drop it, is pretty much precisely the opposite of letting it drop. When you let something drop, you stop taking shots at the other person. Otherwise, what you’re doing is escalating the conflict, and escalating the conflict while claiming that you’re trying to end it is a weasel move. And you’re just about the last poster I’d expect to act like a weasel, WhyNot.
Nah, Just paypal me $100 and we can call this settled.
She doesn’t have $100. She obviously spent it all on a sand douche.
The same way AngryIrishLass’ critics should have given her the benefit of the doubt, I am completely willing to give WhyNot the benefit of the doubt (not that she needs my benefit). She states she is having a bit of a rough few days, and sometimes that can spill out of our fingertips.
She is a poster that has my respect. No way could I retract that respect over her mild comments in this thread.
Touché. I was merely surprised because the tenor of her posts did not mesh with my knowledge of her personality.
Oh, I didn’t think your post denied her the benefit of the doubt at all. I think your post was dead-on.
I only made my comment at all because I feel the exact same way that you do, and when she said she has been having a couple off days, I respected her as a poster enough to take her word for that.
Well, I’m glad to see that self-righteousness and cuntish personalities will remain in the human genome. :rolleyes:
There’s a quote that I picked up from somewhere that sums up the way I feel about judgemental, moronic twits such as yourself;
May those who assume the worst from people have all of their expectations fulfilled.
didja happen to miss the part where she said she was re-thinking her attitudes in this thread?
*May those who assume the worst from people have all of their expectations fulfilled.
Right, but shouldn’t part of “re-thinking” also involve a genuine apology, rather than the disingenuous one offered?
While WhyNot’s last post in this thread was a promise to consider her actions, her last response on the actual topic was, as Miller notes, little more than an accusation of lying, accompanied by a magnanimous willingness to “let it drop.” Heffalump and Roo did pretty much the same thing.
Everyone fucks up every now and again, and most people are willing to forgive such indiscretions. The key is how you acknowledge your fuck-up.
Nah, no reason for me to tell you off, but I will help your confusion: #2 did try to bring the diaper to the trash, hence the mess. However he was discovered, and it was abandoned. I swear he had the thing off in less than 15 seconds - the time it took for him to look out that bubble window and move to the top of the (green)slide less than a foot away. #1 was told to retrieve the diaper. He was greeted (as I confirmed this morning on the drive to school) 1/4 of the way down the blue slide with an employee and a huge ass trash bag. As stated, when I did my first go round on the green slide, I made it up to the bubble window room to find a present. When I came down the red slide, I was met by the manager and an employee holding a small diaper in a huge bag.
There is still no excuse for the jumping to conclusions in this thread, but whatever. Less details are demanded in some Great Debate threads. I certainly hope **WhyNot ** is back to herself soon.
There’s a slight difference between me and WhyNot here. She based her vitriol on a small post by AngryIrishLass’ whereas mine came about from WhyNot’s numerous posts and backhanded apology in this thread. I assumed very little, if anything, while she indulged in flights of fancy.
Had WhyNot offered up a genuine, “I’m sorry about that,” I would have quite a different opinion about her. Frankly, I’m not sure how I would feel if she came back and sincerely apologized, but I would believe her if she did.
point missed by both mhendo, Lazlo - WhyNot last post (still on topic) is that she’s re-thinking her position at this point.
Seems to me that those who contend she jumped the gun are doing some jumping themselves at this point, moreso since her post indicates a willingness to step away from her prior leap,yet the two of you seem to be unwilling to give her the benefit of the doubt you demanded she give. how bout waiting for clarification - like you wanted her to do?
Actually, it seemed to me that her last post was not really “on topic,” but was more of a general observation about her mood and the way it was contributing to her posting style. She said nothing about her actual response to AngryIrishLass.
Also, what’s to rethink?
She made an incredible leap of judgment based on very little information, accusing AngryIrishLass of not even offering to clean up her own mess (see post #29). Then, when AngryIrishLass returned to clarify that she did not, in fact, simply drop everything and run, the best that WhyNot could muster was a luke-warm admission of error, a thinly-veiled accusation of lying, and not a single word of apology for leaping to such an unwarranted conclusion in the first place.
She might be rethinking her position, but she has so far shown no inclination to return to this thread, despite the fact that her last contribution to it was over 30 hours ago, during which time she has made 32 posts to other threads on this message board.
Also, as Lazlo points out, we are basing our conclusions on WhyNot’s actual actions, not on wild leaps of inference, as she did. She accused AngryIrishLass of acting like an asshole, despite the fact that there was no evidence whatsoever to support the charge. I’m accusing WhyNot of acting like an asshole, and the evidence is right there in this thread, for all to see. That makes the two situations quite different, despite your attempts to equate them.
Also, as i said before, it’s not the end of the world if someone acts like an asshole. It’s especially easy to forgive if it’s an aberration, as it appears to be in this case. But the least you can do, when you’ve acted like an asshole, is come clean, admit it, and say you’re sorry.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, so I could care one way or the other.
But ‘rethinking your position’ is not an apology, and an apology is definitely warranted.
A lot of frothy accusations were leveled that a simple ‘stepping back’ really doesn’t address.
I have a lot of respect for WhyNot, usually, but I think she fell a tad short here.
Had plenty to say based on very little, including accusations of irresponsible parenting, and now, at a loss to find the words to say what anyone can see should be said, “I’m sorry, I mispoke”.
One cannot help but wonder how exactly Whynot would take to being wrongly accused, by some righteous individual on a message board, of irresponsible parenting.
I understand what you are saying, but I think that when she says she is going to ‘step back’, she means she is considering her position, and that she may be wrong. A lot of people are unable to do that.
I think the fact that Zuma started this thread, but it is WhyNot that other posters are taking to task, speaks volumes about the high regard that many posters hold her.
I really am rooting for her to return to this thread and do what she thinks is right.
It’s weird…some folks may think, “jeez, people take message boards awful seriously”…but the thing is, once you set a moral standard for yourself, you tend to stick to it as best you can in every area in your life. You sometimes fall short, but you try to climb right back up there.