pepperlandgirl, this is the second time you’ve made a personal attack against me in a thread by insulting my intelligence. Perhaps I should ask you to kindly remember where we are. (Notice I left off “at”. And you you insult my intelligence?)
I daresay I have a lot more experience than you have around people who ride. I was riding long before you were born. As I said in this thread my comments were based on my experiences. You’ll note that I wrote “from my observation”. After you’ve been riding since you were six years old, and have 30 years of riding under your belt, and have been around as many riders as I have been, then you’ll have a greater database from which to draw.
I daresay too, that I have considerably more life experience than you. I have learned that people have different opinions, and that if their opinions differ from mine, that is usually not a sign of ignorance or of sub-par mental abilities. When you grow up, maybe you will learn that.
I have no desire to take this to the pit because we’ll just end up calling each other idiots, and that won’t solve anything. I made my statements based on the people I’ve met (and that includes family) who ride Harleys and other bikes. You may have had different encounters.
I live in Milwaukee (Harley capitol of the world! )
and have a VERY LOUD Hog. But I’m careful not to snort it around the neighborhood, even when I’m warming it. It’s basic courtesy. I wait until I’m on the open road. I have to live around these people, I don’t want to piss them off.
Does this guy know this bugs you? Have you talked to others on the block? How do they feel? Maybe you could walk over to his house with a few beers and have a friendly chat.
Or maybe the guy would be a jerk weather he had a bike or not. It could be a loud muscle car the guy was snorting. Some folks just don’t care about getting along with their neighbors. But I say talk with him.
And yes, Harley’s have to be made louder. But I wouldn’t say they all come from the factory exactly quiet. I’ve been next to police bikes that had stock mufflers that blasted a good note out of them. Could be why I’ve never known any biker to get a ticket for noise.
My neighbor two doors down has a really nice Dyna and although it is louder than my POS Nighthawk 650 I bet it annoys the neighborhood a lot less than mine does. His bike makes this nice low rumbling noise while mine makes this higher pitched shrieking wail.
btw - He is a very nice, intelligent, and helpful guy who gives me no attitude because I have a Japanese scoot. It has been my experience that the guys with the obnoxious attitudes are the ones on those two-wheeled toothpaste tubes. But that has just been my experience.
Hello? Is this thing on? In my quote, I was refering to these comments:
That has NOTHING to do with loud pipes, idiot. That’s my point. If you want to start a “Harley drivers are rude idiots with low IQ’s and shitty attitudes”, then I suggest you do it in the PIT.
Zette: I answered your “get a life” insult by stating that I was speaking from my own experiences. Then I merely re-iterated why some pipes are too loud. Sorry if I changed subjects too quickly, but you know how maneuverable we Japanese-bike riders are!
Johnny LA,
Never mind- I obviously misunderstood the idea of GQ. I was under the impression that GQ was a place to ask and answer questions. I was further under the impression that the Pit was for hurling insults at individuals or groups.
My Bad!
By the way, maybe it’s the area you live in. Our local H.O.G. welcomes riders of ALL types of bikes to our events. We frequently have “Jap” bike riders among us.
Zette
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This post has been close captioned for the sarcasm impaired.
I guess all that means is this is the second time you’ve acted like a moron. That’s not my fault.
I don’t have a problem with your different opinion. I have a problem with your ignorance. There is a difference.
Apparently I’ve grown up enough to know that one should not make blanket statements about an entire group of people, especially a group as diverse as Harley owners. I guess you haven’t quite figured that concept out.
pepperlandgirl: I have no desire to take this to the pit. It’s not worth it. The OP has been answered and as far as I’m concerned I’m through with this thread. You are obviosly spoiling for a fight.
actually there are laws, and Federal ones at that. all newer bikes have a sticker on them saying that they meet or exceed the guidlines for that year. I believe, not know, that you’re not supposed to be able to get the sound above 100± dB’s. I for one try not to upset the neibours when I leave at 6am. I take it up another gear or two to make sure it’s not as loud. that being said though when I first moved into my new neibourhood cops started showing up everywhere. I had never seen one in the area before and everytime I passed one they gave me a dirty look. I haven’t seen a cop in about two months. I think some people saw the bike and thought all sorts of crap about me. what they should be looking for is all the people who run the stop signs and drive twice the speed limit with kids playing around.
Ive owned all sorts of bikes, BSA,Triumph,BMW,Moto Guzzi, and Harley, and I always made them as loud as possible(the guzzi was about the loudest noise of any kind I have ever heard…it would set off car alarms.), and the reason is saftey. Someone trys to pull into your lane, you pull the clutch in, and rev it, and they stop…the horn you on most bikes is useless. Loud pipes have saved me on numerous occasions. Most cops I know won’t right a ticket for loud pipes(unless you piss them off), for this reason. My harley has no baffles whatsoever, and people know I’m there. I try to be considerate of my neighbors, and not sit there and rev the bike in my driveway, but I’d rather stay alive.
We have noise regulations on bikes but for some odd reason Harleys escape some of them.
I think it is something to do with the age of the engine design.
It is not worth having excessively loud pipes as it means you are going to get pulled over, fined lots, and have points put against your licence and what do points make - points make walkers.
Our police and public don’t have the sentimentality you lot have for Harleys and the behaviour illustrated in the OP, if persistant, could end up with the machine being turned to scrap.
Exhausts have been very carefully designed to comply with the noise regualtions which give a certain level a a specified engine speed around 5500rpm.
This means that as you pull away and build up revs there is often a hole in the power band just when you could do with the extra torque like when you are stuck in steady moving traffic and thinking of overtaking.
Using fuel injection helps clear this up immensly as any CBR1100XX Blackbird rider will know.
Real badass boys ride GSXR 750’s round here as you need to be mad to keep up with the litre machines, meaning that you don’t brake for corners - ever.Nutters.
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