Another 'if you met God' how would your live change

Just wanted to add that I agree with you here, although I’d state it as “agnostic”.

Dawkins wrote in The God Delusion: “I am agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at the bottom of the garden.”

So for the sake of clarity: I am agnostic with regards to God, angels, Zeus, Santa Claus, unicorns, or indeed fairies at the bottom of the garden. :slight_smile:

I would, very likely, go on about my business and never let on to anyone. Wait to see if it happens again, or is it a one off?

I would definitely review what I’d ingested the day before. My first thought would be that it was something I’d eaten, or a drug interaction of some kind.

I don’t believe I’d live my life any differently because of one episode. For me it would be similar to having your palm or cards read. Who knows? Maybe they’re right and I’m going to meet a tall, dark stranger, but I’m not taking their words to heart. Nor would I take to heart anything promised in a vision.

You can’t let the angel get away with “you will receive future enlightenment” and on that basis completely revamp your life. It’d be like falling for a cosmic Bernie Madoff.

I’d require something concrete, like being able to go back to 1933 and assassinate Hitler.

To respond to what several people have posted.

Accept, for the moment, the existence of a traditional Judeo-Christian God as a hypothetical. Such a being is omnipotent and omniscient. So God would be able to present himself to me in a manner which would preclude any alternative explanation other than that he is God. And if you are presented with evidence for which the only possible explanation is the existence of God, then you either have to rationally accept that God exists or irrationally deny the evidence.

Is there any evidence that God exists? Not that I’ve experienced. But does that mean I can declare the non-existence of God is a proven fact? No, of course not. I haven’t experienced everything. The only way I could positively conclude that God does not exist would be if I myself were omniscient.

That is simply impossible. How would it prove that it wasn’t one of the infinite number of other possible omnipotents, for example? How would it prove that it wasn’t something that is nowhere near omnipotent but just powerful enough to fool you? It can’t be done.

There are two omnipotent beings. Each of them says it is God, the other an entirely different entity called Ghod. How can one prove it is God and that the other isn’t?

So you’re saying that because you don’t know how something could be possible, it must be impossible? You feel that your mind encompasses every possibility?

In this case, of course. Once something is powerful enough to fool me in a way I can’t possibly see though, it by definition is beyond my ability to figure out whether or not it is telling me the truth or not.

I believe that that falls under the religious category of “You cannot know the mind of God…but I can.”

What the heck, no one here really thinks I am sane, so here goes.

Been there, done that. Well, it didn’t go the way the OP describes. Got no message for the masses, got no instructions. Got no answers. Decided not to argue with God, what with Him having His personal pronouns capitalized and all. I accepted it. Well, I kinda accepted it, then when it happened again I started really accepting it. The when it happened again, I got the message that within the narrow framework of Him, and me, i was the uncapitalized one.

I have no divine insight, except in that framework, and don’t think trying to convince others about anything to do with Him is a particularly good idea for me. I believe that it was a revelation, and I try to live my life in the path of the one thing about Him that I was able to perceive. Love is the path. When my path is not love, then it is just my path, and I am lost, again. So, don’t follow me, I get lost all the time. When I met Him on my path, it wasn’t because I had found His path. He was just there to find me.

Tris

The way I see it is I don’t have a godlike mind so I can’t imagine what a godlike mind is capable of doing.

Irrelevant, since the limiting factor here is the human observer. What you are ignoring is that the more capable and powerful such an entity is, the less able it is to prove it isn’t just fooling us; calling it infinitely powerful just makes it infinitely incapable of doing so.

To repeat an earlier question you ignored: There are two omnipotent beings. Each of them says it is God, the other an entirely different entity called Ghod. How can one prove it is God and that the other isn’t?

You’re still falling into the trap of judging an omnipotent and omniscient being through our limited standards. You and I can’t imagine how we would present evidence that would distinguish between God and Ghod in a manner comprehensible to a human mind. But a being that knows everything would know how to do it and a being that could do anything would be able to do it.

eta: And you’ve moved the goalposts with all this stuff about Ghod. The debate wasn’t about distinguishing between God and Ghod. It was about distinguishing between God and some mental condition.

Then I better believe in all gods, just to be sure, since I can never know which is the true god.

You could set up a rotating schedule, to be sure you believe in each god in turn (I don’t think any of them would let you get away with believing in all of them simultaneously). Be sure to leave two null days in the calendar - one for atheism and one for unrevealed gods. And maybe one weekend a month to worship The Winslow.

That one is easy-if you’ve got a mental condition, you can’t.

This makes no sense. This god is some sort of all powerful being so he’s known about me and what I think for my whole life, and has chosen not to squash me like a bug. He’s not like some gangster into whose clutches I have only just fallen. The one clear thing is that unless something has changed he’s OK with me being alive. Not only that but isn’t he supposed to be all loving and shit?

One of the basic problems of the whole god thing is that depending on the time of day and who you talk to his image seems to vary between that of a petty vengeful tyrant and the most warm loving earthmother you ever met.

It’s almost like the total confusion you might find in the absence of anything resembling fact.

Bad news I’m afraid. I am the one true god. Your belief in me on every second Thursday of the month is kinda nice, and earns you a very small credit. Unfortunately, on the debit side, the one thing that truly makes me angry is believing in that try-hard wanker Thor, which you do on the fourth Wednesday of every new quarter. Straight to hell for you, sunshine.

To expand on my previous post-barring concrete evidence that can be presented to others, there is currently no way to distinguish between meeting God and experiencing a bout of mental illness. Baring in mind that mental illness is more common than entities that can defy the laws of nature by a factor of, say, 37 zillion to 1, your first assumption should be that what you have experienced is mental illness. “I know what I saw/heard/felt!” is just as mentally and emotionally felt by one as by the other.

Why? Have you experienced all gods? And why believe in any god without evidence?

Personally, I’ve never experienced any god. But if a god manifested himself to me, it doesn’t matter if it’s Allah or Zeus, I’m going to become a believer in that particular god.

Maybe you’re not clear on how omnipotence works. It means a being can do anything. Manifesting itself to a mentally ill person would be easy. An omnipotent being could manifest itself to a blade of grass if it wanted to.

How? I have no idea. I’m not a god.

You’re saying that you can’t figure out how something could be done. Therefore you’re concluding it can’t be done. That’s a big leap there.