[Quinn] Christ was here to save souls. The Antichrist is not here to damn souls, but to save the world. [/Quinn]
Well, if you tell me what odd variety of gemtria allows O to equal 60 when M is only equal to 6, I might let you join the world-ruling council.
(I don’t qualify on the age, anyway. Had I started breeding right out of college, I could have a son who was 31, but I’m a bit past it.)
(FWIW, among the various accusations that Deb has hurled at me, “antichrist” is not included.)
Drusilla was one of Caligula’s sisters. Whether he really commited incest with her is a controversial question. Caligula’s daughter Drusilla was not borne by his sister Drusilla, but by his last and favorite wife Caesonia. If memory serves, his daughter was born a year or two after his sister’s death. See my Staff Report Was the Roman emperor Caligula as crazy as they say?
On Dixon’s conflicting predictions about the Kennedy assassination, see Ian and David’s Staff Report on Did psychic Jeane Dixon predict JFK’s assassination?
I wish this Anti-Christ business would be put to rest.
By finding him/her.
I’d like to sign on to the company, I hear it’s predicted to do well. 
-k
tomndebb the book may be expensive; but you can also email your questions to his website. i’ve done that already, but i was hoping i could find an answer here sooner. oh, and the word “trinity” never appears in Revelation… or anywhere else in the Bible for that matter either.
Cervaise pieces of cardboard can’t predict things… it’s more than that, but this wasn’t meant to be a thread about dmones (other than the antichrist).
t-keela how old is David Draiman? (just kidding… people wouldn’t be very accepting of him anyways, but i HAVE observed that:
- he’s hebrew.
- he went to law school.
- he has a belief in and symbol for the union of all religions.
Beastal you mean the anti-mohammed? ah, there’s plenty of those already. and why would they think the antichrist has any significance if they don’t believe Jesus’s/Christians’ teachings anyways?
I’m not sure I understand what is meant by this. However, if you’re going to use the transliterated Arabic word for God, it should be capitalized, just as it is when translated into English. Translated:
If you know who the Jewish god is,
Then you should know who God isn’t,
And if you know who God isn’t,
You can figure out who God is!
The logic in this is worse than my five-year-old on a bad day could I suspect you’re trying to say that the god that Muslims believe in is some sort of opposite of the Jewish god, in which case, do some research and post again when you have a clue.
HennaDancer
Let me clarify a few misconceptions:
First of all, Cervaise: I was born in 1971, but in November. You can call off the 1972 search.
Second, t-keela- you’re close, but of course o is really equal to 318.
It’s i which is equal to 60.
Finally, I’m not Jewish or Muslim, that’d be too predictable. I hate being too predictable.
Hope this helps!
Well, if you tell me what odd variety of gemtria allows O to equal 60 when M is only equal to 6, I might let you join the world-ruling council.
Why the one that fits what I’m trying to prove of course. :rolleyes:
I figure it’s about as useful as the rest of them. Besides you wouldn’t want that kind of top secret info. getting out on the web. and then there’s that whole deal about having to kill people once you tell them.
So, what’s the going rate now for admission to the “club” you know that one that doesn’t exist. Now, I don’t mind taking orders from the boss. But I’m not sitting at the table next to no damned lizard, alien or not. 
and you know she’s called you a devil before.
Sure, he <i>says</i> he’s 31. Looks mid-40s to me. Have you checked his ID?
Muslims are certainly of the opinion that they are following Jesus’ teachings, it’s Christians who have strayed.
As far as I am aware, (in Islam) Jesus will return, but there will also be a ‘Dajjal’ (Anti-Christ) who will come and try to destroy Jesus, and lead many people astray.
To get back to the OP, I am not sure, but I strongly suspect that Van Impe would have said the Antichrist was 31 back in 1998. This is because he was, at that time, pushing the idea that “the indications” were that things were going to hit the fan in the year 2000, and there is a popular idea that the Antichrist will make his big move at the age of 33, this being the age that Jesus is popularly supposed to have been at the time of the crucifixion.
Just as Christians have all sorts of theories about the Antichrist, so too do Muslims have many conflicting ideas about the Mahdi. Shiites generally figure that the Mahdi was the twefth of twelve Mullahs or leaders who led their movement at the beginning. After Mohammed ascended into heaven (or simply disappeared, according to your point of view), there was a schism over who should next lead the movement. In the war which ensued, eleven of the twelve Mullahs were killed. The twelfth’s body was never found, and there is a widespread belief among Shiites that he is still alive.
The Ayatollah Khomeini was extremely vague about his early life, and a fair number of Iranians were disappointed when he died without announcing that he was, in fact, the centuries-old Mahdi.
As for varying Christian views of the Antichrist, there is a long-established scholarly tradition which holds that The Book of Revelations has nothing in particular to do with the end of the world, and instead describes the struggles of the early church to survive in spite of oppression by the Roman Empire. Under such an interpretation, the Antichrist is just a metaphor for the Romans, or a Roman Emperor.
Some Christians interpret the Antichrist as being associated with the End Times, but as not being a specific person. Under this view, “he” is an abstraction. When I was a kid (the 60s) there was a vogue, at least among some conservative Roman Catholics
in the U. S., for supposing that the Antichrist was Communism, or might be the Soviet Union specifically.
As a previous poster noted, Falwell has said that the Antichrist is alive and Jewish. Al Franken appeared on a talk show with Falwell once and asked him if he thought that composer Marvin Hamlisch could be the Antichrist. Falwell said he wasn’t sure. I guess he figured it was best to keep his options open.
To add to the discussion regarding Jean Dixon: she got attention for announcing that President Kennedy was going to be shot a few hours before it happened. The funny thing is, journalists were later unable to find anyone at the women’s club meeting at which she spoke that day who remembered her saying it. You’d think a thing like that would make an impression.
Dixon had also predicted that Nixon would win the 1960 election.
The important thing to consider about Dixon is that underneath all of the pose, there appears to be just more pose. In the 1960s she published an autobiography which was replete with examples of what a spooky, brilliant kid she had been. She said she grew up as one of the younger children in a large farm family.
Reporters subsequently found that there had been a family named Dixon living where she said she had been, and at the time she said she had been there. Nobody from around there, though, remembered them having a child named Jean. Nor could anyone find her birth certificate, school records, or other documentation of her existence.
Reporters were also unable to account for one of the whereabouts of one of the older Dixon kids. It has been suggested that Jean is, in fact, her “own” older sister, and has knocked a good many years off of her age.
“Rexella” does appear to be some kind of neologism based on “Rex”. The usual feminine equivalent of Rex, though, is Regina.
Van Impe, as noted before, has constantly revised his account of just how things are going to hit the fan. For a while he really seemed to have his heart set on having Gorbachev nuke us. Then, when the Soviet Union was headed for dissolution, he started talking about how the Bible clearly “indicated” that a Russian general was going to fire off missiles in rebellion against Gorbachev.
Van Impe also used to have a wild hair about the King of Spain. This seemed to be part of a general animus against Roman Catholics. Then he came across a quote from Pope Paul XII in which he said that everything which was necessary for the end of the world was in place. He took to quoting this continually as confirmation that the end is near.
It was, I suspect, a classic instance of quoting out of context: the usual Catholic view is that the world could end today–or a million years from now. Catholics are, in fact, discouraged from presuming that they can figure out when the world will end, and there are Biblical passages supporting this approach.
The way Van Impe finds evidence for his constantly revised timetable is amazing. During the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearing, he said that the fact that Anita Hill was lying about him was proof that the end was near, because liars are mentioned in the Bible. And, of course, he knew Anita Hill was lying, since the end of the world is near. Of course, he could have concluded that Clarence Thomas was the one who was lying based on the facts that the Bible mentions liars and the End Times are near, but I guess he thought that would be silly.
He and Rexella said crop circles were a proof of the End Times too. That is because crop circles are mysterious, and the Bible speaks of mysteries.
Personally, I liked Van Impe better back in his young, angry days, when he used to scream about how Elvis Presley was an agent of the Communist conspiracy–only he didn’t know how to pronounce “conpiracy”. He’d say “con-spire-us-see”.
BTW, “Van” means “from”, and “imp” means “demon”. Ooooh…
Another thought on Dixon:
Dixon has written that she knew the dread Third Prophecy of Fatima, as Mary, the mother of Jesus appeared to her in a vision while she was attending Mass one day. Nobody else saw or heard her–that is, saw or heard Mary.
For those not familiar with the Fatima Prophecies: briefly, three children in Portugal claimed to have visions of Mary. The oldest child could hear her speak. At their last encounter, Mary told her three prophecies, and instructed to learn to read and write and then record what she had told her.
The prophecies were eventually passed on to The Pope in a sealed envelope. The first two prophecies were published.
It is often difficult to reconcile the idea of prophecy with the concept of free will; if a prophecy says for a fact what will happen in the future, does that mean people are powerless to choose to act differently? The prophecies seemed to get around this problem by speaking in “if/then” terms.
One prophecy that if Russia was not led away from adopting Comminism, then the movement would spread to other countries.
The other said that if people didn’t work sufficiently for peace, then when it was too late to stop the progress of events, there would be a great brightness at night over the place where the next world war was going to come from. This has been interpreted as referring to a freakish appearance of the Northern Lights over Austria and Germany around the time of their unification.
As both of these prophecies were released well after the facts they seem to describe occured, however, they don’t really seem all that compelling.
The third prophecy was kept sealed up and, it is said, locked in a safe in the Vatican Archives. There were various apocryphal stories about how one Pope or another read the Third Prophecy and then became extremely depressed for days and/or made a slip later where he told people about how the stuff is going to really hit the fan. One story is that he told a group of visitors that tidal waves will cover whole mountain ranges.
Dixon published what Mary told her, and, IIRC, it spoke in vague generalities about the End Times.
A couple of years back The Vatican actually released the text of the Third Prophecy. It had nothing to do with the end of the world, and mentioned the assassination attempt in the early 80s against Pope John Paul II. As this was, comparatively speaking, pretty dull stuff, The Vatican’s announcement did not get much media attention.
So far as I know, Dixon has not explained why either The Vatican or The Virgin Mary is kidding around.
I’m going to 2nd the suggestion for CarrotTop
Died. His tomb is in Medina.
Yes. When I was young and impressionable, my mother messed me up by telling me the Anti-Christ and I were the same I age. I was convinced for years it was one of my classmates.
Faithfull Muslims maintain that Mohammed was raised to Heaven via golden rope from the the Temple Mound in Jerusalem.
Maybe the antichrist is a butterfly, then. Nobody ever suspects the butterfly.
Well, never mind then. It’s obviously Shaquille O’Neal. I mean, Shaq-Fu? Who didn’t see it coming after that?
Why is he buried in Ohio?
Why a tomb of “The Prophet” i Medina?
A Golden Rope?
I read it was his horse that carried him to paradise.
Captain Amazing: my apologies. Upon further research, I find you are clearly correct.
Tradition says that Mohammed ascended into Heaven via a golden rope from the Temple Mound, and I have read from time-to-time that the tomb in Medina is regarded by some Muslims as a cenotaph.
From this I mistakenly assumed (based on my cultural bias) that if Mohammed had ascended into Heaven, he must have stayed there. Rather, the tradition is that he returned after a brief visit. As for the marvelous horse to which springears alludes, that was the means by which he was said to have been transported to Jerusalem.
As for the idea that the tomb in Medina is only a memorial with no body in it, this is apparently a distinctly minority view. There is a story that his casket is suspended in space between Earth and the Moon. Some scholars suggest that it was originally said as a joke by nonbelievers.