Any cases of brain dead person brought back to live?
Has there been any case where some one brain dead was brought back to live? Under the normal legal system, when the heart and lungs stop working the person is legally dead.
But now they say because of CPR and defibrillator it no longer means the person is legally dead!!!:eek::eek: But now the legal system now for legally dead means brain dead.
That kinda of gray area:eek::eek::eek::eek: now, because after 6 minutes brain cells start to die!!
So if the person is brain dead is there any technology to bring the person back to life?
I guess there is very small window of opportunity of about 6 to 10 minutes the person heart and lungs stop working to bring the person brought back to life? Why? because after 10 minutes it is very hard at that point to bring the person back to life and after 10 minutes the person would be in vegetated state because after 6 minutes brain cells start to die!!
But has there been any cases to bring back brain dead person back to life?
How can they restore electrical activity in person? Has it been done?
How close is the small window of opportunity of about 6 to 10 to 15 minutes tops to jump start the electrical activity in person?
How can they restore brain activity? Has it been done? What is being done on this front.
Is the meaning of dead or being legally dead being subject to change now.
How do you define life? There are people kept alive who are brain dead. But if you a brain dead you’re not going to come back to “brain live”, as far as we know. There’s no defibrillator for the brain.
If there are any cases, they’re going to be documented as something like ‘incorrectly diagnosed as brain dead’, because I think as far as medical science understands it, there’s no coming back from brain death.
If, by brain dead, you mean the cells of the brain have ceased functioning and begun to disintegrate, neurologic function for whatever those cells do is not recoverable. It is possible, but difficult, to maintain peripheral body functions such as circulation and (assisted) ventilation when the brain is pretty far gone, so whether or not the patient is himself dead depends on how you decide what life is.
If by brain dead you mean a guy who simply looks dead, it depends on why he looks brain dead. If his EEG is flatline, is he just super cold? Tiny chance of getting him back if the hypothermia is accidental; if he’s in the operating room and it’s being done on purpose, pretty good chance.
If he’s warm but has lost all his brainstem reflexes, it kinda depends on the situation, but if those are gone and his EEG is flat, and he doesn’t have injected chemicals tricking your clinical analysis, his brain will not be “brought back to life” despite what the rest of his body is doing.
In general the “brought back to life” cases are not cases where a competent clinician made a non-hurried designation of a brain death.
Remember that the brain has more than 100 billion cells, and a lot of different functions, so defining a “dead brain” is not a binary proposition unless the whole thing is gone. Imagine a city with some electrical outages that keep getting worse, but where there are multiple power sources. Until the last light bulb goes out, can you say the city is completely dead electrically? Sometime well before the last toaster stopped glowing, it was a dead city functionally.
In his case there was no blood flow to his brain so the doctors said he was brain dead. What is the mystery in that case is what started blood flow to his brain?
Was his heart and lungs working okay but no blood flow to the brain? Why no blood flow to his brain and what started blood flow to his brain.
I think in case they are talking about lack of electrical activity. And where some say is there any way to jump start the electrical activity.
And if the person was dead for under 10 to 15 minutes chance to bring the person back is higher than if the person is dead for over 10 to 15 minutes.
I believe ‘legally dead’ only happens when a doctor signs a death certificate certifying that person X is dead. And that won’t happen if person X is still in a hospital ICU, on a respirator & defibrillator, etc.
I’m not a doctor, but a PET-scan doesn’t seem to me to be the appropriate tool for determining brain death. And even if it is, what is more likely? That this guy was brain dead for hours and somehow miraculously rebooted with no damage, or that the doctor majorly fucked up the examination and scan?
I don’t think that’s true. There is a difference between “clinical death” and “legally declared dead”. By either accident or surgical procedure people can be held in a deep hypothermic state for over 1 hour with no brain or heart activity – clinical death – and successfully revived.
“Clinical death” is where statements come from like “I died on the operating table and was brought back to life”. They were never really dead, if the definition is decay of the brain’s intricate synaptic network.
In Short-term cases their heart stopped momentarily. In long term cases they were being held in a state of metabolic suspension via deep hypothermia.
It seems to me that “brain death” is a pretty hard item to precisely pin-point. Hypothermic drowning victims preiodically recover - some completely - often enough to blur the lines. In some circumstances, where cellular dispruption can be delayed, simply restarting the heart and reversing the hypothermia is sufficient to generate a “miracle.” But those conditions are, by their very nature, extrmely rare outside of a surgical theater.
What country are we talking about? That will affect the legal determination of what is or is not “dead”. People come back from have their heart stop all the time, not 100% success rate though. Flat lined brain though… I’d have to research that.
Also, as someone else states, this is not a simple binary decision. So many scenarios we could go over. In the USA, it’s up to the decision of the attending physician, with consult of any surviving family member or legal guardians, to make the determination as to whether or not to continue life support for a non-responsive person.
I just want to point out, since the above quote seems to suggest this, that a defibrillator does not restart a stopped heart, despite numerous depictions of such an event in movies and TV shows. The purpose of a defibrillator is to STOP a heart which is in fibrillation, not to start it if it is not beating.
That what I don’t know did the doctor make mistake and thought there was no blood flow or was there no blood floor and some how some thing started the blood floor.
Wrong Wrong base on old history before CPR and defibrillator death was base on cessation of heartbeat (cardiac arrest) and of breathing.
Also being what is death is not clear.
What was once being dead no longer means dead now.
Please read the OP post.
Under the normal legal system, when the heart and lungs stop working the person is legally dead.
Historically, attempts to define the exact moment of a human’s death have been subjective, or imprecise. Death was once defined as the cessation of heartbeat (cardiac arrest) general rule of thumb is that brain cells begin to die after approximately 4-6 minutes of no blood-flow. After around 10 minutes, those cells will cease functioning, and be effectively dead.Nov 4, 2013