This guy I know says if you’re rolling skunk, you’re wasting it. He also says that it is not possible for weed to be too strong, just smoke less of the really good stuff.
Well, actually I think that there are heavy pot smokers and there are heavy pot smokers who are also slackers by nature. There’s no amount of sobriety that will get some people off their ass to do something productive with their lives. These people probably fall into that column.
**Runs With Scissors **said;
“It opened up my mind to fears I have that really aren’t worth thinking about.”
This person had only one time where something like that has ever happened. It was weird; he/she was freaking out about the way they sounded when they laughed. Even more weird was the fact that they started dwelling on it RIGHT before their friend put in The Big Lebowski, (he/she wasn’t even laughing at the time). She/He(/It?) couldn’t pay any attention to the damn movie and they want to see it again! But that was the last time they got paranoid, (in *THAT *way at least). They also have been the ‘voice of reason’ for people who ARE sort of freaking out, or sweating small stuff while high. They are also not self-conscious or afraid of being in public when high, (well, no more than they would be if they weren’t). If it’s had any effect on the person, it would have to have been bit more subtle. Again, they can be *too *cynical.
They also wonder if the **ACT **of smoking isn’t a possible factor in their reluctance to try to quit. Oral fixation?
They *have *gotten ‘the giggles’ before, but that’s rarely a side effect. They don’t get “the munchies”. Though they didn’t do their art projects for college while they were high, getting high certainly inspired them to think of some unique ideas! They love watching “deep” movies while high, or shows like NOVA, or playing video games.
But this person **REALY **should bring up the fact that there’s a long history of depression, anxiety, and dealing with a learning disability in their life. If someone with the same problems asked this person if ‘pot was right for them’, knowing the persons’ struggles, they would say; “proooobably not!”. This person will, and has refused ‘sharing’ with people who’ve never tried it before. They did that once, and they’ve learned from that.
It sounds to me like they may slow down, until they will, (maybe), stop caring.
I forgot to mention that these were some helpful stories. Thanks! And if anyone has any more, (from any POV), please tell.
I go for weeks, sometimes months, at a time without smoking. My usual pattern is to smoke for a week or two, at least once a day, then go for few weeks/months without. The only real problems I have with quitting are the feelings of boredom for the first few days. I actually get more creative with my music during the days just after quitting. An interesting note: I actually get the anti-munchies when I’m stoned. It completely kills any feelings of hunger.
Heh-heh…one of my pot-addicted friends rushed over to my house yesterday, thinking that a family member called the cops on her to bust her for her pot use. She saw a couple cop cars near another friend’s home, and thought her family member sent them. She asked me to stash her stash and she was just going to lay off it for a while.
She called me 6 hours later, decided there was no longer a clear and present danger, told me she had the pot Jones going on and came back and picked up her stash.
I second this. I know a lot of people who never went through any major physical or emotional withdrawal from it, because the social situation in which it was the norm had dissipated. It’s a big deal in high school because teenagers 1) are bored, 2) want to be social and it provides a reason to congregate, 3) like the fact that it’s frowned upon by adults because it gives them something secretive and special to bond over while establishing their own independence in a relatively safe way.
After high school, though, very few of those things apply anymore. Theoretically, you’re working harder and also have more freedom/mobility, so you’re not as bored. You’re getting comfortable with who you are and feel more independent, so don’t need something to help you establish that further. It’s easier to get alcohol and easier to find people who drink to hang out with than people who smoke. It’s also acceptable in public places, and as you get older and more gainfully employed, you begin to appreciate this more because you have the money and means to go out.
For most people I know, it was a natural progression. I still know a few people who will be potheads for life, but for most people, the hassle of getting it and sneaking around with it isn’t worth it for the little thrill it provides anymore. (At least not on a regular basis.)
My SO can’t quit. He gets nightmares after insomnia, has no energy, no appetite, and he’s miserable to be around. He’s been a daily smoker since he was nine years old. The habit is so deeply ingrained I don’t see how he’ll ever quit, although he does want to. He says it’s the first thing he things of in the morning and the last thing he does before bed.
It frustrates me because I quit smoking cigarettes after 22 years, and I feel like if I can do that he could quit the weed. It’s such a waste of money; fifty dollars a week. Well, when he has fifty to spend. Otherwise he has to go bum from friends.
Sounds like he needs some transition meds to replace the synapse goo that he’s missing when he doesn’t smoke.
Hopefully, the fact that he started pre-puberty won’t mean that his brain can’t ever get up to speed on its own.
He’ll probably also need some anti-ODC meds for a bit to help keep the thoughts at bay.
That, and something to seriously occupy his time.
I think it can be done, tho, and the docs/meds surely can’t cost more than $2600/yr.
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hi i am a heavy smoker for 5 years… i feel dizzy and perplexed, i cant focus very well, sometimes i cant focus at all i have some muscle spasms and i want to know if all of these will go away after a while i quit smoking or not?
Hey coco. Hope you’re OK. How bad are the spasms? I got muscle twitches myself which lasted several weeks on and off. If they’re anything more than that, consult a medical practitioner.
I used to smoke every day for about ten years. When I stopped I didn’t crave it, but I got weird dreams and insomnia for a week, muscle twitches for a few weeks, then everything went back to normal and I felt better and more relaxed than I had when I was a regular toker. Good luck!
(This is an old thread BTW.)
Evening!
Best advice: set your alarm early, get up and do stuff that takes your mind off smoking. I dunno, walk to the store or cycle or something. It’s not like weed is enormously addictive in itself, but the stoner lifestyle can be very easy to fall into.
Thanks for the advice. i have only twitches also… but what about the loose of focus and the confusion, after i will stop smoking they will disappear?
I smoked tons of pot between ages 18-28. Most of that time I really enjoyed it but when my marriage was breaking up I started having “bad trips” every time I got high. I’d get very depressed and paranoid and really it was a relief when I quit. I went 12+ years without getting high once, then maybe 6-8 times total since then. Average of once every other year or so. I have to be very careful now, just a few tokes and not try to keep up with the hardcore stoners! Too much and the paranoia/depressive feelings come back.
I smoked weed on a daily basis from age 14 to 34 or so and quit cold turkey for 10 years with no ill effects whatsoever. Today I can take it or leave it and toke maybe 3 or 4 times a year. I have also been addicted to other drugs: caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, opiates, benzodiazepines, and methamphetamine. Still hooked on coffee and tobacco. All these others are very, very difficult to quit-- either physically, psychologically, or both. Marijuana is a walk in the park.
I have been smoking over 20 years full-on. At a party, if the mull bowl is full, I will be the last person standing. If this stuff was legal, I would be very happy. I hate the blackmarket. I started on hard drugs when I was 18, I am a professional person, hence my anonymity. It took me until age 29 approx to give up hard drugs (mainly amphet) and the libido-enhancement that it brings. I used pot as a way of euphoria to let me give-up the harder drugs that brought me much joy but also many horrors. After 20 years of loving the pot I have come to a point where I realise I am hemoraghing cash. I went through periods growing it, and all that did was make me love the plant more, respect farming science more, but also add to my paranoia about authorities busting me. Alcohol is ok, tobacco is fucked but now I have grown to be addicted to it in small quantities by trying to preserve my precious pot supplies by spinning it out with 'baccy. Marijuana is not a pesky addiction like tobacco.
I like sex. I used to like hard drugs because they have the potential to maximise your orgasm a lot. That’s why pot was the ideal replacement for hard drugs. Sex on pot for me is awesome. Most good drug takers know it’s all about set & setting. With good intentions Pot+Sex = Fucking Awesome.
So, to answer the question, what’s it like giving up pot for a long-time heavy user. Sex seems boring. It’s like if I want to have sex or even just a wank that is awesome, I would have to visit my pot dealer. Otherwise, just forget sex being than fun. Maybe I’m just old & jaded and have had too much good fun / sex. I don’t know. Maybe after a few months of total non pot usage my sex euphoria would return to normal levels? All I know is I’m sitting here with no pot, I feel good that I’m not wasting cash, but I feel bad that I am not a euphoric human being. I wish pot was legal and people didn’t judge pot users.
I don’t have problems with anybody who uses drugs as long as they are honest people and don’t hurt anyone. I have always been pro legalisation of drugs. The guy who invented hygiene practices in hospitals was a heroin addict, he was also a genius who worked hard and help save people’s lives, I admire him although I don’t personally like using heroin, it’s far from my drug of choice. Everybody has a different metabolism and reacts to drugs differently.
As far as physical impact goes, pot is actually regarded as a medicine for many things. That’s why it was a good replacement for me in terms of my speed use. Speed gave me Hep C, it wasn’t the drugs fault, if you want to pin down blame;
A) The Law
B) My Ignorance
C) My best friend
You won’t ever catch Hep C from weed, BTW I beat Hep C, a little the weaker, but a lot the wiser.
I sit here, half-way through a bottle of cheap white wine. Our local really do recommend the good stuff. But this lovely bottle will be a lot harsher on my liver than pot could ever be. And my dick will never rampage on a half bottle of white like it would after half a joint.
We live in a world dominated by conservative business politics. They don’t want you to have fun, or think, they just want you to work or die.
I don’t care about the insomnia for a few days after hammering the pot. I just wonder why I have to be so straight now, and work away, and wait for old age…:o
Strange to see this after so long. SO was deported the year after I made that post. He no longer has access to weed. He’s managed to survive.
Well there ya go; lots of reasons to just say no.
I don’t recall any experiences when I quit smoking marijuana. I didn’t quit cold, though, I just tapered off and then stopped. I don’t think it was a deliberate decision, it just happened that way.