Any FASCIST sci-fi utopias?

Hearing some of the comments about the social structure of the “Dinotopia” tv movie (Generally kind of a watered-down new-agey socialism), I was left wondering, are there any “Utopian” civilizations (i.e. No crime, no one’s starving, the usual stuff) in science fiction or fantasy that have more of a facist or a right-wing bent? The only one I could think of is the Earth civilization in “Starship Troopers,” or maybe the Nietzscheans from “Andromeda.”


Numerous of Heinlein’s have fascist overtones.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged.
George Orwell, 1984.
AE Van Vogt had a couple, can’t remember the titles.
Gordon Dickson’s “Dorsai” series, though really more about the “warrior” class.
CJ Cheryh’s “Cyteen” series has some real fascist elements, as seen from the inside. Particularly interesting because she has a related series of novels where Cyteen is the enemy of the protaginists.

Well, I’d say that Earth in Robert Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers” qualifies as utopia for disciplinarians and militarists.

Also, Niven and Pournelle’s The Mote in God’s Eye. Not fascist per se, but about a young and expanding royalist, militant empire.

If you want some strangely twisted facism, try Cordwainer Smith. There is really no one to campare him to, IMO. His societies are weird hodgepodges of things like “The Instrumentality” and intelligent, enslaved animals.

David Feintuch’s Seafort Saga set in a future theocracy.

The first four were good. I haven’t read the last three. The homeworld’s a utopia from Nicholas Seafort’s POV and he doesn’t see the darkside of Earth until the middle of the series.

Science fiction writer David Brin made a good case that the Star Wars universe (both the good side and the bad side) is an idealized fascist state; authoritarian government, a ruling elite chosen because of their genetic background, a tradition of following charismatic leaders on blind faith.

S.M. Stirling wrote the Draka series of four novels. The setting is clearly both fascist and SF. Stirling has said he intended the books to depict a dystopia. But if the reader had fascist inclinations they’d easily accept his world as being a utopia instead.

Virtually all Utopias wind up being a bit totalitarian, even Walden II. Certainly Plato’s Republic was totalitarian, with a wiff of fascism, which was not really recognized as such yet.

For all you fascism buffs, the reverse of the Roosevelt dime has a bundle of sticks on it that represents the Faces tribe, it is called a faces. There are also some of them on the wall of the U.S. Senate.

The ‘utopia’ in Demolition Man, very loosely based on ideas in Huxley’s Brave New World.

The Iron Dream, by Norman Spinrad

Game, Set, and Match to Guy. This is the perfect answer to the question. :slight_smile:

Does The Turner Diaries count?

The evil ultra-Christian Bob Enyart wrote a science fiction story about what would happen if his sort of people took over.

It is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever had the displeasure to read. Feminists and abortion doctors get lined up and shot, people are forced to pray, etc. All of this, in Enyart’s mind, is a great thing and the story is supposed to be positive.

Sarban’s The Sound of His Horn.

It’s 100 years after the Nazis have won WWII, and most of the world seems to be solidly under their boot. We only get to see a little part of it, though…a hunting lodge/getaway vacation place for the party leaders.

Part one is here.

I agree with Arken. It’s just amazingly evil. Especially since it purports to be a Christian fantasy. Somehow I doubt Jesus would have done things this way.


The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood?

Hate to nitpick, but wouldn’t a utopia for fascists be a dystopis for the rest of us?

Er, make that a dystopia.
Preview, dumbass, preview!

You know, Fascism was socialist.

Of course, there’s **1984[/].

Please tell me I’m stupid and was whooshed and that you’re not really trying to pull the old “pin the Nazis on the Left” routine again, please? Pretty please? With lots of sugar on top and dancing girls singing Deutschland Uber Alles?


Ok, it’s 1984, and I ddin’t see Yojimboguy’s listing.

Looks around again: how about Brave New World, and the The Giver?