Any other hobby activity as deadly as climbing Everest?

Actually I meant that the nuns are all secretly screwing the priests who just came back from a “fact-finding mission” to Kinshasa.

Incidentally, Colibri, as a somewhat unimportant point - this is not correct. In general, a rate is a just ratio between two quantities, the denominator need not be time. In most error rates, for example, the denominator is the number of trials; in the case of a human population, something like the literacy rate is just the proportion of the population with that property. So, technically, my joke does work - “the long-term fatality rate” can mean the proportion of the population that eventually dies, i.e. 100%. Of course, at this point it is not a funny joke.

Buzzkill.

If you must nitpick, “fatality rate” by definition includes a time component.

Just to nitpick, everything past my joke was nitpicking, right?

Does the ebola fatality rate have a time component?

In sub-Saharan Africa, which is pretty close to worst case, a study found that 37% of sex workers were HIV+. Studies in low-income countries found a risk of HIV transmission of 0.38% per unprotected vaginal sex act. So that’s 0.14% per exposure to a prostitute chosen at random, or roughly ten prostitutes per Everest (assuming HIV kills you, which again is conservative).

And literacy is one of those famous statistics that is famous for not being easy to meta-analyze because everyone uses a different definition of literacy. If someone can read a shopping list but can’t read USA Today, are they literate? What if they can read USA Today but can’t read the Washington Post? What about if they can read the Washington Post but not the Wall Street Journal? What if they can read the Wall Street Journal but not The Lancet?

It’s one death to every three who summit. There are plenty of people who try to climb the mountain, fail and turn back, but don’t die, who aren’t included in those statistics. And in any cases, it’s unclear how much stock to put in historical death rates, as climbing has gotten safer all around. The death to summit ratio on Annapurna since 1990 is more like 20%.

Also, for all the talk about how Everest is a tourist destination and whatever, it’s still relatively few people who have summited. Around 5600 according to wikipedia. Around 100 per year on average (with most of that being concentrated in more recent decades). Most of the other 8000 meter peaks are an order of magnitude less than that (Cho Oyu, generally considered the easiest of the 8000 m peaks, has had around 3100 summiters). Which I dunno, maybe that’s on par with like base jumpers or cave divers, but it’s a whole different world than just talking about skydivers or recreational scuba divers.

Not my comments. They were essential clarifications;)

Yes.

If contracting ebola is considered a hobby, then I think Russian roulette should be too.

Certain forms of competitive freediving (the maximum depth disciplines) have got to be pretty high up there is the risk category…

I think, if nothing else, we can agree on this principle:

(I'm sure that must predate Futurama, but I'm not sure where from.)

How so? Juggling? Ventriloquism? Comedians?

So if I pick up ten hookers I don’t need a passport & don’t get jetlagged but can say I climbed Mt. Everest. Whodathunkit? Thanks for fighting ignorance.

Well, technically the Case Fatality Rate for Ebola (or any other illness) does not have a time component, since case fatality rate is actually a measure of risk rather than a true rate. The term ‘fatality rate’ is imprecise in that regard, but its use in the literature is widespread to represent the proportion of deaths (caused by a particular condition) within a population of patients with that condition over the course of the condition: either the condition kills you or it doesn’t. It’s expressed as a value between 0 and 1, with no time component.

This may violate the spirit of the op, but somewhere between 1 in 4 and 1 in 2 smokers die from smoking. So if that counts as a hobby, it’s deadlier than Everest. Unless we count it on a per-cigarette basis, in which case I guess the rate drops substantially.

(While it may count as a hobby, most of the responses seem limited to adventure sports - which I suspect may be what the op was getting at.)

…IF you know what I mean.

Just imagine it - it’s far, far safer statistically to smoke one cigarette, or even a whole pack, than it is to make one Everest summit attempt. So next time you are in the Himalayas, just pick up a pack instead and come home safely.

If you are going to select a specific mountain, or cave out instead of the activity as a whole, then you would have to include the Isle of Man motorcycle TT

246 deaths in 100 years, it may not sound too much, until you appreciate that every single one of those riders was highly skilled, and far from the average in terms of capability on a motorcycle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-301493/How-die.html

There is an absolutely notorious youtube clip of a rider doing a circuit around the course, with a camera on the bike, a grey smudge appears briefly before the picture disappears - a grey horse had been spooked by the noise and ran out into the road.

I won’t link to that but there are plenty more that are not fatal, and you do not get trivial crashes here. The official death toll is likely to be significantly lower than the true death toll, but the organisers are never going to publicise that fact.

Just to finally cap it all off, believe it or not, the crashes and fatalities during the race are actually a minority of the total number of deaths from crashing bike riders on the Isle of Man. That's because when the racing is done, the route is opened up for the casual riders, these are just guys with fast bikes who want to give it the full on beans - they are not the highly skilled race riders, and the result is always predictable. These riders are the hobby riders.

In this link it mentions the deaths of three spectators, in a rare event when only one race rider died

The true number of deaths of all types related to the Isle of Man TT may well be over 1000, in fact its likely to be more than that.

That does sound bad, but you don’t mention anything about what the number of riders in the race are. Or how many ride the course outside of competition.

I did a brief search, but didn’t find those numbers, the closest I got was “Up to 40,000 extra motorcycles are on the island during the TT festival.” in one of the articles, but I’m sure we can agree that wouldn’t be the correct number to divide the fatalities by.

Zero. Well, close to it. The Nagant revolver used would stop on the full chamber when spun. Thus when cocked, the next chamber would be empty. Unless of course something fucked up.