Any tech hiring managers here?

I am curious what percent of people who apply for open jobs are non US citizens?

By tech I mean software, engineering or biotech/medical/chemisty.
I’m a US citizen but my last few jobs have been filled with 90% non US people. Mostly on H1B. I am curious if 90% of tech job applicants are non US.

I live in RTP area of NC if anyone is wondering.

Mod request to move thread to LinkedIn. :smiley:

We hire a lot more new college grads (usually MS, PhD) than experienced people, and the value there is easily 90% non-citizen if not higher.

It is much lower than that for experienced, but mostly because the candidate has gotten citizenship already - but I don’t pay attention to citizenship status at all when I look at resumes. Getting a good match is hard enough.

May I ask why you’re interested?

I used to do hiring for software developers. This was roughly 2003-2010. We were a small firm and not set up to sponsor H1Bs. About half the applicants we got from our ads on Monster or CareerBuilder were H1B.

We were looking for fairly esoteric skills and a willingness to relocate to St. Louis, MO. I think the non-US folks were more willing to respond even if they didn’t have the requisite skills (“Yes, I do that. What is it?”) and obviously they were (desperately) hoping to relocate to the US.

Darn near nobody already on US soil was willing to move there, native or H1B. But still, about 25% of our in-US inquiries came from H1B types.

Just wanted to see if my workplace is typical or not.

Up until 2011 I worked with very few non citizens , but since then it’s been 90% non citizens. So I guess I worked in an unusual place for a long time.

In my company foreign born people make up maybe ~10% or less. This is aerospace industry tho.

Vast majority of Americans don’t want to bother with grad school in tech fields. I remember after 9/11 there was talk of making it harder for foreign students to come to the US. Every major college president in America had a stroke when they heard that.

My company has a large presence in India, we have a high number of foreign born workers at our US plants. I’m at a big software company.

I work in IT systems analysis for a very famous pharmaceutical company and I am very white and American. Anything that can be offshored easily (mainly database, network and systems administration) generally is to India 1st but also to other countries like Argentina and many others. I am not a big fan of trend in general because, while my offshore colleagues are generally technically competent, they also have an amazing talent for putting up basic roadblocks and introducing work process and cultural barriers where they aren’t needed or shouldn’t exist in the first place.

I invented a rough conversion formula for converting offshore workers to qualified onshore ones just through years of experience. It generally takes about 5 offshore workers to equal the output of one onshore one in my estimation. Unfortunately, they are often more than 5 times as cheap so it works out on the accounting side but it is still frustrating when you just want just one point of contact to get things done quickly.

For onshore staff, many if not most of my coworkers are also Indian. The ones that get brought to work here permanently or on Visas tend to be much better than their offshore counterparts and generally above average among all IT workers but there are plenty of exceptions. Still, we have plenty of American IT staff (white, black and everything else) scattered around. Most of those are either in upper management level positions or in a position that cannot be outsourced like mine. I work in an industrial facility and have to do a wide range of work, much of which is hands on and talk with all kinds of people all day from the highest executives to blue-collar workers that barely graduated high school. Those types of positions can’t be moved or filled by a foreign person easily if at all and that is the reason that I picked it.

I would have to look at the numbers to get an exact figure but I would guess that, in this mega-corp, it is probably 60 - 75% foreign workers (both offshore and onshore Visa) with the rest being American or Canadian.